Which is why I suggested that you might want to rebuild those "goofy" Knabe butts, rather than replace them with new stuff. I have a bucket full of these, from an 1893 piano, and I also have an 1899 piano. If you need some measurements, just ask. If you want to buy the bucket of 1893 butts and hammers, let's talk. Thump --- Bill Ballard <yardbird@vermontel.net> wrote: > Interesting question: > > I'm reinstalling a set of new upright hammers on a > piano (100 > year-old Knabe) which should have had new butts > under them. In > measuring the hammer bore specs, the one thing I > notice is that the > rake in the top section is 0º (with the rest of the > hammer boring > being a standard 5º). I've talked with the > technician for whom I'm > doing this, who says that the boring is the supply > company's, and > they followed whatever was on the original samples. > > New butts and shanks along with however I choose to > do the reboring > of the replacement hammers. I can get the hammers to > hit their strike > points regardless of the rake. Just a matter of > shank length. I'd be > inclined to use the rake in the lower sections. I > was remembering > that this morning, at the piano, I was confirming > the strike point on > string #88, using the original shank and replacement > hammer (at 0º > rake), busted out of the "dead-meat" butt (go ahead, > RicB, I dare > you...), that the hammer was striking square to the > string, and that > after a little hammer reshaping and then locating > strike point #88 it > sounded promising. > > That was with the new butt as well (Pratt-Win). The > interesting thing > is that when I get an old and new butt side by side > with action > centers matching and the top surfaces (with the > bore) parallel, the > shank on the new butt leans backwards by 4º. So > re-introducing a rake > in the hammer bore added to this extra angle in the > butt's bore will > actually swing more the butt's center of gravity > closer to above the > center pin. > > The 0º rake starts at #72, which is about halfway > through the top > section, so if I had to bet, I'd say that it was > somebody's accident. > > As I said, in inclined (pun intended) to make a > constant rake. But if > anyone knows what advantage there might be to a 0º > rake in the top > octave, I'd be happy to hear about it. > > Bill Ballard RPT > NH Chapter, P.T.G. > > "If you are in a dilemma about where to park your > car, ask your > hostess. If she is engaged, ask some responsible > person who can > indicate a convenient spot" > ...........Betty White's Teenage Dance Book > (paperback, 1959) > +++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com
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