wire coming out of beckett/take care

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Hi John,
Just a figure of speach mostly. <G> But one nice thing about wearing glasses
is that several times the end of the wire has been deflected the wild wire
trying to return to its memory position striking my glasses instead of my
eye.
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Formsma" <john@formsmapiano.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: wire coming out of beckett


> I'm curious - why are you guys losing blood? I've taken plenty of old
> wire from Baldwin & WurliTzer tuning pins, and never have poked my
> finger.
>
> I grab it with my small Vise grips and use the Force to command that
> rascal out. Sometimes it's difficult, but my fingers don't get near the
> wire.
>
> John Formsma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > Behalf Of Joe And Penny Goss
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 6:27 PM
> > To: Pianotech
> > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> > Made the same decision years ago after much loss of blood and
> > noticing that
> > if the becket were made with a sharp bend in the first place,
> > it would not
> > slip out. So when there is room I pre-form the bend prior to
> > putting the
> > wire in the tuning pin hole. I use a round shape plier from
> > the '30s that
> > has a mark where the .282" bend can be made. With this plier
> > I get a very
> > sharp 90% bend even on the largest wire.
> > Joe Goss RPT
> > imatunr@srvinet.com
> > www.mothergoosetools.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have rethought putting the wire through the beckett and
> > bending it. I am
> > > not going to put in the extra bend.
> > > I used to curse the Baldwins that had it. When a string broke, I was
> > > guaranteed, to have my blood showing.
> > > Thinking back to '75, when I started, I can only think of a
> > couple of
> > times
> > > a beckett slipped, and that was on a new piano, where not
> > enough length
> > was
> > > in the hole. If the wire is bent at right angles, and goes
> > fully through
> > the
> > > hole, I have never had one slip.
> > > I think the reason that Baldwin had for doing it, was that
> > the wires were
> > > pre-cut, so it was a manufacturing choice for speed, not to
> > make sure it
> > > didn't slip.
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > John M. Ross
> > > Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> > > jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:52 PM
> > > Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >Ron, So with that logical reasoning, would you not add
> > the double to
> > the
> > > > >Baldwin?
> > > > >Joe Goss
> > > >
> > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > I would anyway, for the other reasons, and take my chances. The
> > percentage
> > > > of replaced broken strings that already have the "lock"
> > bend is low, so
> > > > it's an acceptable risk. I'm still ahead in the long run.
> > > >
> > > > Ron N
> > > >
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