feasable voicing tool modification??

[ryan sowers]

I don't understand why you feel this technique to be
more "damaging" than needling. I'm not talking cheapo
hammers here, I'm talking about Abels and Renners. 

What I learned from Wally and Darrell is that this
technique is part of their standard prevoicing that
they do prior to fine-voicing. 

I started experimenting with it a few years ago and
feel it is an important voicing technique. Its not a
substitute for needles, but likewise it accomplishes
things that needles don't

It is possible to damage hammers with any voicing
technique. 

--- Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
wrote:
> ryan sowers wrote:
> 
> >I disagree that this technique is a last resort.
> Wally
> >Brooks, in a presentation on voicing newly
> installed
> >Abel hammers recommended this technique. Also
> Darrell
> >Fandrich has also recommended this technique on
> newly
> >installed Abel or Renner hammers. 
> >
> >I think of it as "deep tissue massage" for hammers.
> >
> >  
> >
> I gotta side with David Love here, and others that
> take this position. 
> Hammers that require draconian treatments such as
> pliers-mashing to get 
> them soft enough to at all useable are not high
> quality piano hammers to 
> begin with. Ok ok... lots of cheapos use such
> hammers... and a mans 
> gotta do what a mans gotta do and all that I am
> sure... but decent 
> voicing on decent instruments does not involve this
> kind of thing.
> 
> Cheers
> RicB
> 
> >
> >
> >--- David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>You squeeze them because you can't get a needle in
> >>there to save your life.  It's a last resort
> >>technique.   Squeezing the shoulders in the 10:30
> >>and 1:30 region creates that cushion effect that
> you
> >>normal try to achieve with needles.  You can file
> >>the face of the grips flat so that you don't leave
> >>little textured markings on the side of the
> hammers,
> >>though you will still leave a little rectangular
> >>imprint.  It's difficult to hide all the evidence.
>  
> >>
> >>David Love
> >>davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: 
> >>To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >>Sent: 7/25/2004 9:12:12 PM 
> >>Subject: Re: feasable voicing tool modification??
> >>
> >>
> >>Greetings, 
> >>
> >>           Why would one squeeze the hammers with
> a
> >>vice grips for voicing? Or is the vice grips tool
> of
> >>which you speak,  have a special attatchment or
> >>something? I am assuming that squeezing hammers
> >>would help to soften them.
> >>
> >>Julia, 
> >>Reading, PA 
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
> >Pianova Piano Service
> >Olympia, WA
> >
> >
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Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
Pianova Piano Service
Olympia, WA


		
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