feasable voicing tool modification??

[David Ilvedson]

Most newer Yamahas don't have any problems with "quarried hammers".   Certainly in the many years past that was a problem.   I use one needle in my tools so maybe that is why I don't have any problems getting it in...

David I.



----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
From: Andrew & Rebeca Anderson <anrebe@zianet.com>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:17:39 -0600
Subject: Re: feasable voicing tool modification??

>Who sells these?  I could use one for a Yamaha with quarried hammers.  ;-)

>Andrew
>At 12:38 PM 7/23/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>>Squeezing the hammers with a pair of 5wr vice-grips
>>modeled after Bill Spurlocks is a very helpfull tool
>>in voicing uprights (and grands).
>>--- Dave Nereson <davner@kaosol.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <Alpha88x@aol.com>
>> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:54 AM
>> > Subject: feasable voicing tool modification??
>> >
>> >
>> > > Greetings,
>> > >
>> > >              I got a really good idea!  I have
>> > done about 5 hammer carding
>> > &
>> > > needling jobs for customers who own old, old
>> > uprights and I take the
>> > actions
>> > > home to card and do basic deeep shoulder needling.
>> > >
>> > >               However, when I return the action
>> > to the piano, I find I
>> > need
>> > > to custom or individually needle the hammers to
>> > tonally match/blend the
>> > > octaves, or rather, make the side by side notes
>> > sound homogonous/alike
>> > next to one
>> > > another, blending the sections.
>> > >
>> > >                With the action in place, when I
>> > attemp this, my voicing
>> > > tool's handle gets in the way and is too big to
>> > use in the small space
>> > between the
>> > > hammers and the strings. I don't like the idea of
>> > swinging the action back
>> > and
>> > > forth to needle, listen, needle, listen...etc.
>> > >
>> > >                The great idea is to dismantle the
>> > voicing tool, saw off
>> > the
>> > > 1" or so handle insert thereby having just the
>> > needle (cartridge?) head in
>> > hand
>> > > so that I can work quickly with the upright action
>> > in place. Is this a
>> > good
>> > > idea?
>> > >
>> > > Julia Gottchall,
>> > > Reading, PA
>> > >
>> >
>> >     Yeah, the Yamaha tool is OK, but not great.  As
>> > Corte S. said, it's more
>> > for touch-up voicing and surface "sugar coating"
>> > since Yamaha hammers are
>> > usually too hard to be able to get a needle in very
>> > far, never mind three of
>> > them.  I just have one needle in mine and use it to
>> > poke right into the
>> > string grooves.  And my knuckles get scraped a lot.
>> > But there's nothing
>> > else out there designed for upright hammers that I
>> > know of, except the
>> > voicing tool with the pivoting head -- but it
>> > doesn't pivot enough.
>> >     Been trying side voicing lately -- see last
>> > month's Journal, I believe.
>> >     What I end up doing a lot is taking the action
>> > out, laying it on the
>> > carpet, putting a block of wood under the hammer
>> > tails, and stabbing with my
>> > big (Yamaha) voicing tool.  Then put it back in and
>> > see how much effect it
>> > had.  Repeat. Listen. Maybe repeat again, or go to
>> > the smaller tool for
>> > touch-up, or use ViseGrips, but ya gotta be real
>> > careful with those-- it's
>> > easy to go too far.  It's awkward, working down on
>> > the floor on your knees,
>> > but I don't know a better way, unless you bring a
>> > long a portable folding
>> > table or something ...
>> >     --David Nereson, RPT
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>====>>Ryan Sowers, RPT  Puget Sound Chapter
>>Pianova Piano Service
>>Olympia, WA
>>
>>
>>
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