If pianos are "swollen" now... then what?

pianolover 88 pianolover88@hotmail.com
Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:02:28 -0700


<<I will get a call to have a piano tuned and am told its been 5 plus yaears 
since last tuning, yet the A below middle C is right on or ne! ar 440.
Julia Gottchall,
  Reading, PA>>

I HOPE you actually meant "A ABOVE middle C", NOT below!

Terry Peterson




----Original Message Follows----
From: Clyde Hollinger &lt;cedel@supernet.com&gt;
Reply-To: Pianotech &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt;
To: Pianotech &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt;
Subject: Re: If pianos are &quot;swollen&quot; now... then what?
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 13:18:20 -0400

Bob,

It was good to see you in Nashville.  Of course I agree with you 
wholeheartedly, whle at the same time I admit that I am not a very outspoken 
salesman of PLS systems.  I do let first-time clients that if the piano 
sounds bad between tunings, then humidity change is the culprit, and we can 
deal with that.  If established clients remark about tuning instability, I 
also let them know their options.  I think I averaged about one system a 
month during the spring and early summer this year, which is probably higher 
than average for me.

Regards,
Clyde H.

Robert J Russell wrote:

&gt;Hello All, Excellent advice Clyde. You really offer great advice on
&gt;how to deal with our wonderful humidity changes. The only thing I
&gt;would add, is that six month tunings over these high swing periods
&gt;offer a great opportunity to recommend a solution for their
&gt;problems. Piano Life Saver Systems. If your tuning in the fall and
&gt;spring to avoid these swings, the pianos are going to sound terrible
&gt;in June through October and January through April. The biggest
&gt;question that we need to ask our customers is how many months  of
&gt;the year do they want their pianos to sound good?
&gt;Great seeing everyone in Nashville,
&gt;Bob Russell, RPT
&gt;
&gt;Clyde Hollinger &lt;cedel@supernet.com&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;     Julia,
&gt;
&gt;     I do what is called by some &quot;floating the pitch,&quot; 
although I
&gt;would
&gt;     not do this for a concert where the piano really needs to be at
&gt;A-440.
&gt;
&gt;     My experience is that in this area humidity generally peaks in
&gt;     August and September and hits the lowest usually in February
&gt;and
&gt;     March.  So we are on the rise at this point of July.  When I
&gt;sit
&gt;     down to tune a piano, I use my RCT to test where the pitches of
&gt;     the As are, from A1 to A6, and sometimes the lowest unwound
&gt;     strings also.  (If you tune aurally you'll need to use your own
&gt;     system.)
&gt;
&gt;     What I do next depends on the season and the situation.  If
&gt;I've
&gt;     been tuning the piano in July at A-440 for years, but suddenly
&gt;     this year the whole piano is sharp, this is a humidity
&gt;     aberration.  If I tune it at A-440 again, it is almost a
&gt;certainty
&gt;     that next year it will be flat.  So I leave it sharp! .
&gt;Obviously
&gt;     I keep good records so I can look back and see what has
&gt;happened
&gt;     in the past 10-15 years.
&gt;
&gt;     I do not like 6-month tunings that swing between high and low
&gt;     humidity seasons.  I have a couple customers like that, and
&gt;     sometimes I never tune the piano to A-440, leaving it several
&gt;     cents high in the summer and about the same amount low in the
&gt;     winter.  That way I'm putting less wear on the pinblock, and I
&gt;     know that somewhere between tunings the piano is on target.
&gt;
&gt;     Regards,
&gt;     Clyde Hollinger, RPT
&gt;
&gt;     Alpha88x@aol.com wrote:
&gt;
&gt;&gt;     Greetings,
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;                   If the pianos are &quot;swollen&quot; just now
&gt;&gt;(summertime),
&gt;&gt;     due to the humid mountanous atmosphere of this part of
&gt;&gt;     Pennsylvania, is it OK to tune above A440?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;                    I have been tuning for alittle over a year now.
&gt;&gt;I
&gt;&gt;     have found that pianos which the customer tells me havent been
&gt;&gt;     tuned for 5 or more years, are very close to A440, yet they
&gt;&gt;are
&gt;&gt;     terribly out of tune as far as unisons and horribly flat upper
&gt;&gt;     octaves.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;                     In other words, I will get a call to have a
&gt;&gt;piano
&gt;&gt;     tuned and am told its been 5 plus yaears since last tuning,
&gt;&gt;yet
&gt;&gt;     the A below middle C is right on or ne! ar 440. Other pianos I
&gt;&gt;go
&gt;&gt;     to, the customer will say it's been 2 years and these are
&gt;&gt;     actually a few beats above A440.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;                     I never turn them back to A440, I figure they
&gt;&gt;are
&gt;&gt;     swelled right now, and if I turn them down to 440 now, then,
&gt;&gt;when
&gt;&gt;     the summer is over they will go below 440 when the heat goes
&gt;&gt;on.
&gt;&gt;     Last summer, I had my first few tunings and I turned pianos
&gt;&gt;back
&gt;&gt;     down to 440 and I was wondering if my fork was off...This year
&gt;&gt;I
&gt;&gt;     figured it out. I think I am correct, but I want to be sure on
&gt;&gt;this.
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;                     This year, (with my whole whopping 16 months
&gt;&gt;     expertise)  If I go into a situation and its a few beats above
&gt;&gt;     440 I tune it right there. In fact,  if the customer doesnt
&gt;&gt;have
&gt;&gt;     a dehumidifer or ar conditioning, I even pull the piano up a
&gt;&gt;bit
&gt;&gt;     to be alittle above A440. Pianos &quot;should&quot; be s! harp 
just now,
&gt;&gt;     right? How am I on this? Am I figuring OK on this?
&gt;&gt;
&gt;&gt;     Thanks
&gt;&gt;     Julia Gottchall,
&gt;&gt;     Reading, PA
&gt;
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