This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi James, Would you be willing to post the text of your brochure, or maybe even the Word document file? Thanks, Dean Dean May cell 812.239.3359 PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272 Terre Haute IN 47802 -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of James Grebe Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 9:01 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Help with "bad" tuning...need help Hi Doug, Yes, do go back and touch up the tuning. Always explain before a pitch raise that it is just the first of several tunings to raise the pitch and stabilize the tuning. Myself, I tell them on anything over 25% low is a pitch raise now. Another tuning in 2 weeks and then in 3 months. I do not do a pitch raise unless they thoroughly understand this. I write my own brochures and it explains all about the peculiarities of a pitch raised piano and the expectations of such. You will learn how to be firm and exude confidence in your words with time and will come to not be afraid to speak your truth of pianos and why they go out of tune. Jim James Grebe Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups (314) 608-4137 WWW.JamesGrebe.com <http://www.JamesGrebe.com> 1526 Raspberry Lane Arnold, MO 63010 BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE! pianoman@accessus.net <mailto:pianoman@accessus.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Renz Piano Tuning <mailto:pianotuner@frontiernet.net> To: pianotech@ptg.org <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 7:51 PM Subject: Help with "bad" tuning...need help As a new piano tuner, I am learning a lot as I go and tune different piano’s and typically I am tuning the older piano’s and some new/better ones. This past Sat. I tuned a piano for a home that had a console that had never been tuned ‘in a long time’. I warned them that I might break strings and that it will go out of tune quickly because of the condition of the strings and the piano itself. Well I was called back by the customer saying ‘the piano is still out of tune and you must not have checked it before you left’. Before I left I told him, ‘your piano is most likely going to go flat somewhat because it has not been tuned at all in such a long time (20+ yrs) and that it should tuned every 6 months. The piano was old and recently had some action work, but the strings looked old and dirty. I was careful not to break any strings and when I left it sounded good and the funny thing was the customer said it sounded good after I finished. It was not that out of tune, A440 sounded like it was between g-sharp and a, but not an entire half/step off. So, what do I do now? Has anyone been in my shoes before? Go back and do a ‘free’ fix it up tuning, or tell him, he has to pay for a 2nd tuning. Is this going to risk my reputation? He had the action done by another local PTG member and I am afraid that if I don’t go back and ‘fix’ this, I am going to get that reputation and the other PTG member might tell others about the ‘part time’ tooner, which I do not want to be and this is why I joined the PTG, to get better. Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated. I thought the tuning was good, inspite of the condition of the piano and the strings. It sounded alot better, but I knew it was going to need another tuning soon. Any advice, thoughts? Thanks. Doug Renz Associate PTG member, Rochester, NY ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/1c/ec/e3/aa/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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