This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment HI Isaac. Thanks. The problem I ran into was that the broken pin was = so tight, that the screw extractor was stripping out itself. =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Isaac Sadigursky=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: RE: broken tuning pin Hi,Ron! Regarding removing brocken tuning pins in verticals,there is = actually a third way to do it and it works. Using BROCKEN Screw = Estractor of appropriate size it drills in reverse AROUND the stem of a = brocken pin,just like removing brocken screw and then the hole can be = re-drilled with 1/2" PIN BLOCK material plug and shortly drilled for new = #2 tuning pin .Try it on a practice junky pin block material and let me = know if it works for you.Best Regards! Isaac Sadigursky=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ron & Lorene Shiflet=20 To: Piano-Tech Sent: 12/11/04 11:25:58 PM=20 Subject: broken tuning pin Well, I did it. 15 years in the business and I finally broke my = first tuning pin...um... I mean the pin broke. I was restringing the = bass on an old upright from...well, lets just say it's a family = heirloom. The pins were so loose that I used new pins. I'm unsure of = the size, they were in an old bag laying around. More than likely I = went from a #2 to a #4, but the holes were loose, at least those that = the owner didn't duct tape the pins in with. Anyway, this one pin went = in really tight. (I think it was duct taped) I drove it in and when I = went to tighten it and get my coils right, the new pin snapped off at = the becket hole. There is about 1/4 inch of pin sitting above the = plate. I am familiar with 2 methods of dealing with this. =20 1.. Drill into the pin and use a broken screw extractor.=20 2.. Carefully measure from the backside, drill into the back of = the piano, and drive the pin on through the back of the piano. I opted for method #1. The pin drilled pretty easy. It actually = surprised me. The metal was softer than I anticipated. Unfortunately = the tuning pin was so tight that the threads on the screw extractor = started to strip. I then decided to file the sides of the pin so that I = could just grab it with my tuning hammer. Well....it still isn't = budging. As for method #2, I don't measure that close and I really = don't want to leave a hole in the back of the piano. =20 Since the pin drilled easier than expected, I suppose I could just = drill it out, plug the hole with hardwood, then redrill it. I would = imagine that this would be less visible. Any ideas gang?=20 thanks in advance. Ron Shiflet PS, just to give you an idea of the vintage of this piano, it has no = capstans or bridge pins. (I'm also wishing it didn't have tuning pins.) = The strings terminate over a brass bar/pressure bar system on the = bridge so it has no bridge pins. As for capstans, it uses a wooden = lever that raises up and down by a screw system. Well anyway.... =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/41/cd/67/17/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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