This is a multipart message in MIME format ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Ric: Double reed players do indeed have the smallest window of usable= pitch. The piano in the double reed studio here at SMU is tuned= to 442 at the teachers' request. Both the oboe/english horn= teacher and the bassoon teacher are Dallas Symphony players and= since DSO tunes to 442 they need their piano tuned there. If a= bassoon player needs to tune to 440 they will need a different= bocal made for 440. The pros generally will have those, but= many others don't have multiple bocals. Oh yes, that pitch stability is the reason that the orchestra= tunes to the oboe player. dave __________________________________________ David M. Porritt, RPT Meadows School of the Arts Southern Methodist University Dallas, TX 75275 dporritt@mail.smu.edu ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Richard Moody <remoody@midstatesd.net> To: 'Pianotech' <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 03:54:05 -0500 Subject: RE: Tuning with a fork......Sanderson... Joe, If you produce a musician (oboist you say) who says their= instruments get weird outside of 2 cents deviation I will take a= fresh look (with them) at my premise that you completely= disagree with. I know a few musicians but have never asked them= if 2 cents or two cycles per second is a big deal and wonder= if they know the difference. We ultimately work for the= musicians. If they really want to play to a piano no more than= one half a cycle per second off, we should hear from them and= offer our services accordingly. It is worth $100 for me to see if an oboist can indeed tune= aurally within 2 cents before concert and I would ask to see = how far off he or she is off immediately after performance. = You gotta pay scale after all..... If we want to find out how much pitch floats during= performance we (piano tuners) have the machines to find out. I= am betting it is much more than we think. And the piano floats= the most.(Is my guess) I am willing to put time into settling= this issue once and for all. But the bottom line is who will= fuss if the piano is 438.5 for performance nite? Sometimes it= happens. Life goes on----the music sounds good...whether at= 438 or 442 and no matter what the oboist says. :) How much do= your pianos for performance float? ---ric "Nothing is a waste of time if you use the experience wisely." Auguste Rodin (1840-1917); French sculptor. -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org= [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Joe Garrett Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:45 AM To: pianotech Subject: Re: Tuning with a fork......Sanderson... Richard Moody said: "So machine tuners adjust the machine, and= aural tuners go ahead for the touch up. For some machine tuners 4= cents may look like a lot. But for musicians it is no problem" Richard, Try telling that to an oboist!!!! Four (4) cents off is= either 439 or 441. That's too far out for some instruments to= play with. There are a lot of instruments that get weird,= outside of 2 cents deviation, their natural= harmonies/acoustics/timbre is messed with. I completely disagree= on you premise! ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/09/a4/10/5d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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