abel needling technique

[Erwinspiano@aol.com]

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In a message dated 4/20/2004 6:38:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
jkanter@rollingball.com writes:
Thanks. I'd love to hear from others. Ari Isaac says:

Pushing needles into the shoulders rips the fibres, hence the puffing out of
a heavily needled hammer.  This means that when you push needles into the
shoulder radially you lose control.  Since every set of hammers is
different, one can never tell how much energy is lost when needles puncture
the shoulders.  The more the shoulders are punctured - the more energy and
the more control is lost.  This is neither an efficient nor a safe way of
voicing.

To what extent do any of you agree/disagree with this?
I can certainly see the danger of damaging the hammershank pinning with
sideways pressure, and I imagine that this technique calls for a specialized
plier-type tool. Does this danger outweigh the benefits, as Corte suggests?

Jason
   Jason
  Don't believe everything flks tell you but try it out for your self. 
Although I agree with most of what Ric said there many occasions when side voicing 
renders an effect that is very beneficial to fundamental production especially 
in the bass & lower tenor. Side voicings effectiveness may also be used in 
conjunction to the usual techniques.
     Try this. Next time you're at a piano with a clangy bass remove the 
offending hammer(unscrew it)  and lay it on its side on something soft  then jab 
it a few times or many over & around the top of the molding. The stiffer it is 
the more you jab. You can't ruin it. Jab all the way thru 6 to 12 times or so, 
re- install & listen to the bottom end come forth. At that point switching to 
radial needling may help even more. All voicing techs. ar useful in different 
situations & with different types of hammers. I sold Isaac hammers v
for years but I could not produce all the "magic" I wanted with this one 
technique alone. It's a fine hammer by the way
   Dale

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