Grotrian lost it's singing tone

[Greg Newell]

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Rick,
         No I did not give him the material as he is well acquainted with=20
the product and has been to the web site as well. I suppose I am off the=20
hook but I sure would love to help him find an answer that he can live=20
with. One of the ideas was to plan a 2 piano concert and bring the Pleyel=20
in from the choir room. That might shed some light on things for him if the=
=20
Pleyel winds up with the same troubles.

Best,
Greg




At 07:42 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote:
>Well, as long as you promoted it you're off the hook. Did you give him=20
>their material? I find it very useful. Best case scenario it fixes the=20
>problem, worst case the piano is still better off.
>
>Good luck,
>
>Rick Ucci/Ucci Piano
>
>
>
>
>From: Greg Newell <gnewell@ameritech.net>
>To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>, deanmay@pianorebuilders.com
>Subject: RE: Grotrian lost it's singing tone
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 10:23:41 +0000
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>Thank you for your response and for your patience with me. I have just=20
>spent over a hour checking how SBC YAHOO spam filter is dumping perfectly=
=20
>good emails into my spam filter box. ARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!! You think=20
>things are all set and then you find something like this. makes you wonder=
=20
>why you have a spam filter if you have to go through and look at all the=20
>mail anyway to make sure it isn't filtering perfectly good stuff!!!
>I agree about the Dampp-Chaser and have talked with him about it but so=20
>far he seems to be dodging the issue. We'll see.
>
>Thanks!
>Greg Newell
>
>richard.ucci@att.net wrote:
>Greg, I would install a Dampp Chaser with cover, give it a few days and=20
>then look at voicing issues.
>
>Rick Ucci/Ucci Piano
>
>
> > >>The relative pitch in a
> > drafty but otherwise temperature constant hall is firm but the unisons
> > don't stay all that well. I usually don't have problems with stability=
 but
> > this one is tough. It seems that the dealers tech, who was called out to
> > try and search out the problem too, also had trouble with pitch=
 stability
> > as I went there days later and the unisons were not that clear.
> >
> > You say it is a drafty hall. I've seen lack of moisture cause a piano to
> > loose substantial amounts of singing tone. Maybe it dried out in the=20
> church.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> > Dean May cell 812.239.3359
> > PianoRebuilders.com 812.235.5272
> > Terre Haute IN 47802
>! >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On=
 Behalf
> > Of Greg Newell
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:19 PM
> > To: Pianotech@ptg.org
> > Subject: Grotrian lost it's singing tone
> >
> > Greetings list,
> > I wonder if some or you wouldn't care to share your insight about
> > a weird issue I am having with a 7' Grotrian. Some time ago i asked this
> > list if money were not much of an issue which piano of this size would=
 you
> > be most likely to buy. Many good responses came to that query and the
> > church's music director finally purchased 2 pianos. The purchases were=
 the
> > aforementioned Grotrian and a 7' Pleyel. The Pleyel found it's home in=
 the
> > choir room and the Grotrian is on stage in the sanctuary of this rather
> > large old church. The sanctuary has e x t r e m e l y high ceilings.
> > Since the delivery of this piano the mus! ic director and I have
> > been going round and round trying to pin point and even find the correct
> > words to describe something strange which the music director calls a=
 loss
> > of it's singing tone. I think that the best way he recently described it=
 to
> > me was an initial strong attack but an immediate drop in power with a=
 less
> > than original sustain. A thorough examination of the piano found no=
 problem
> > with a loss of crown or downbearing. There was no problem with the=
 strings
> > regarding false beats or the like. The voicing was even and untouched=
 from
> > the dealer prep it had received. In the space of 3 days after delivery=
 the
> > character of the instrument changed. The one oddity we found after some
> > poking around one day was that after attaching a piece of wire to 2=
 strings
> > of a unison, ala the patented staple technology, the sound was=
 noticeably
> > improved. While attaching the wire (temporarily) kn! ocked both strings=
 out
> > of tune, they did not exibit the lack of power that is evident without=
 the
> > "staple".
> > I'd be interested to hear about any observations you all might
> > have had with freshly delivered instruments exhibiting a loss of=
 "singing
> > tone" and what you have done about it. I'd also be interested to hear=
 what
> > experience along these lines that you may have had with the patented=
 staple
> > technology. The music director is getting no response from his recent=
 email
> > to Grotrian although others prior to this were answered almost=
 immediately.
> > It would be great to have a replacement piano according to him but what=
 if
> > the new one exhibits the same problems says I. Thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Newell
> >
> > Greg's piano Fort=E9
> > mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
> >
> >
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>
>Greg Newell
>Greg's Piano Fort=E9
>Lakewood, OH 44107
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Greg's piano Fort=E9
mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net=20
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