OT: Re: orchestral tuning

Mike Bratcher MBratPianos@Indy.rr.com
Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:46:19 -0500


Just curious...why did you pick the bassoon as your example?  I'm a bassoon
player.  If you listen to Bob & Tom on the radio in the morning,  you hear a
bassoon now for the sports intro.  Guess what?  That's me.  I am submitting
a bassoon quartet version later this week.  They don't know it yet though.

Mike Bratcher

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Koval" <drwoodwind@hotmail.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:46 AM
Subject: orchestral tuning


> I changed the subject heading as this is beginning to splinter...
>
> This came before:
>
> There are no orchestral fixed pitch
> >instruments, except in the percussion section.
>
> Ok maybe I am using the wrong term.  But what are the holes for in the
> bassoon? To give a pitch? Why is that not called a fixed pitch?  Because
> the player can "bend" it?   What term should be used then, to
> distinguish the pre determined pitch of the bassoon and the variable
> pitch of the trombone?    Also I would like to know how your bassoon was
> actually made.  Did the  craftsperson sit at a bench and file the holes
> so that the pitch agreed with an electronic tuning machine?  If so then
> your bassoon is in ET. Or if not then what pitches were designed will
> tell the anti ET trio what to say about anti ET
> <end>
>
> When you hear a beginning band play a piece, can you hear how out of tune
> they play?  That is pretty much the factory setting of pitch on all those
> instruments.  It's not so much a matter that a player CAN bend the pitch,
> but that a performer MUST be in control of the pitch, via embouchure, or
> whatever means they have to blend with what is going on around them.  As a
> player develps, they get quicker at putting the pitch where they want it
to
> be.  The holes and keys only serve to get the pitch in the ballpark.  Then
> it is up to the player to find the righ spot for the note.
>
> I know what you are talking about comparing a unfretted instrument or
> trombone with a keyed or valved instrument, but I'm not sure of the
> terminology.  I was surprise when I was told by the Fox bassoon person
that
> their bassoon used a modified just scale.  He insisted that ET would just
> sound bad.  It's on the website that I posted about before.  It still
seems
> to me that putting them in ET would make corrections easier.  It may well
be
> an engineering problem that influenced the decision.
>
> Ron Koval
>
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