Hi Vince, Have a listen to Tafelmusik. They perform in a Valotti-Young temperament. (at least the harpschord) http://www.colbertartists.com/ArtistBio.asp?ID=40 At 03:30 PM 4/5/2004 -0700, you wrote: >hi Ron, >Being a pianist as well as a tuning student, I really wish I could hear some >of these un-equal temperaments. I have never been able to find recordings >with these >I mean, is it really true that different temperaments enhance for instance, >various harmonies in the romantic period? >Vinny >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ron Koval" <drwoodwind@hotmail.com> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:22 AM >Subject: Temperaments... > > >> This whole temperament thing is such a tiny niche of the world, even among >> tuners! I went through all my years of study as a bassoonist, assuming >that >> ET was the norm, yet we trained for listening and adjusting to Just >> intervals. It wasn't until I really dug into the subject a few years ago >> that I realized that ET only exists in fixed pitch instruments, such as >the >> piano and organ. So much of the discussion is framed by what we THINK is >> the norm, not what actually IS the norm. Think about that a minute. Not >> in orchestras, not in bands, not in choirs, not in ensembles, ONLY when >the >> piano is brought into the mix does ET enter the picture. >> >> It becomes so obvious when you think about the speed of the thirds that we >> work so hard to control on the piano. Do you think that an >instrumentalist >> would change the speed of the beating of the third, based on where in the >> scale it lies? How impossible would that be?! I can just imagine: >"Let's >> see, I'm in the key of F, so the tonic should beat at 7bps, but the >dominant >> should beat at around 10 bps... but wait, that's only in one octave... oh, >I >> missed that measure, what's the next note?" >> >> That means, even though ET is accepted everywhere as the norm, it really >> occupies a very small corner of musical expression in the world. Anyone >> that tries to introduce an alternate tuning runs into the brick wall of >> ignorance about the specifics of musical tuning. >> >> I feel that at this point, the best thing I can do is to speak directly to >> pianists about the existance of playable temperaments. I hope to develop >an >> article to submit to the magazines that cater to pianists. Something to >do >> with temperaments as just another way for them to add contrasts to the >> music. So much of what we do already as techs give pianist greater >> contrasts, either through regulation, voicing, tuning, or rebuilding. >> >> Ron Koval >> Chicagoland >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - FREE >> download! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T. mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK S4S 5G7 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
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