This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Wait, I thought we were talking about Baldwins, of which I very little = experience (but lots of years servicing Steinway, Yamaha & Kawai!). But = whatever piano we're talking about, are we blaming the weak treble = output on soundboard compression or a weak overall design, or the = voicing capabilities of technicians? Maybe a bit of all three? If the = problem is soundboard compression, is the treble the only place it can = be heard as a problem? As for the voicing a piano "down" to match the weakest section I have an = opinion about that as a classically trained pianist (who knows about the = theories of pedal technique). How many times have I attended concerts = or recitals where the pianist used the una corda pedal virtually the = whole time, almost never playing without it? One of those concerts = featured a piano concerto with full orchestra!!! Could it be that there = are an awful lot of too bright pianos out there and this is how pianists = have compensated for it? (But hey, maybe they like it that way.) = Although I know some performers say they are using it to get subtle = differences in tone or nuance, he or she should not have to rely solely = on the pedal to achieve that. In piano literature, una corda is = specified for special subdued moments. The style now appears that NOT = using the una corda is reserved for grand finales. It seems a bit = skewed to me. =20 Barbara Richmond ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Farrell=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:22 AM Subject: Re: compression ridges in New Baldwin grand That's because those pianos are likely prepped properly. Many are not. = Steinways don't have a killer octave if they are voiced properly. I went = to a lecture by a Steinway dealer tech that explained all that clearly. = He instructed that new Steinway pianos will commonly have an area in the = fifth or sixth octave that is weak compared to the rest of the piano. = You need to take the tonal characteristics of that weak area and voice = the rest of the piano down to match. That is how you voice a new = Steinway. That makes the killer octave go away - er, ahhh, ummmm, I mean = that makes for a properly voiced new piano. Problem solved. No kidding. True Story. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:04 AM Subject: Re: compression ridges in New Baldwin grand > Yeah.. I knew this one was comming... something wrong with our = hearing... grin.... > Well... squirm as you may... the fact remains that 95 % of the = worlds concert > venues have that same hearing problem... as well as the vast = majority of concert > pianists. You simply cannot escape the fact that the Steinway = reputation, and the > alledged self destruct soundboard theory... are at astounding odds = with each > other. >=20 > Like I said... it just does not wash. >=20 > RicB >=20 > Ron Nossaman wrote: >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > >Those are your numbers and your claims of significant tonal = problems, not > > >mine, > > >and evidently not those of all those folks out there happy with = their > > >Steinways. > > > > > >-- > > >Richard Brekne > > > > This is true. For those who don't hear anything wrong, there's no = need for > > a fix and no way to discuss the possibility that one might be in = order. > > > > This strikes me as the bottom line. > > > > Ron N > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >=20 > -- > Richard Brekne > RPT, N.P.T.F. > UiB, Bergen, Norway > mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html > http://www.hf.uib.no/grieg/personer/cv_RB.html >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/4d/64/bb/7d/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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