>At 8:25 AM -0700 22/9/03, Joseph Garrett wrote: >It seems that the better sustain and clarity of the bridge agraffe is not >due to the direction of the vibration, but simply because it provides a >better termination (all metal) than the conventional bridge pin and wood >termination. >What do you think? Hi Joe, Yes, I suspect that when the agraffe is firmly fixed to the bridge (and they don't seem always to be, since they can exhibit falseness as well), they will produce a cleaner tone with better sustain than a conventionally pinned bridge. Like Phil Ford, I don't subscribe to the theory of any termination being capable of influencing the mode of vibration. Furthermore if it did, as Phil also mentioned, this would lead to a reduction in sustain with a higher initial sound pressure level. While I have no doubt that a properly executed bridge agraffe system could be very good, I suspect that some of the claimed benefits attributed to it is just 'smoke and mirrors'. Two things worry me about using bridge agraffes (I admit that I am interested in using them at some point). The first is that the agraffe takes up valuable bridge height. If, for example, the string plane is say 8 mm higher than the bridge on account of the agraffe taking up the space, a piano with such an agraffe will have only 24 mm high bridges if the string plane is 32 mm above the panel. I consider 24 mm as an inadequate height for the long bridge, and all pianos which I have so far experienced with such low bridges seem to exhibit tonal problems. Therefore, the bridge agraffe should be designed with the lowest practical height between the top of the bridge and the string plane. Alternatively, one could build a panel with another bridge under the sound board as Grotrian did with some of their early grand pianos, but this would push the cost of the piano up quite a bit. The second concern I have with using bridge agraffes is fixing them permanently to the bridge. Of the bridge agraffed pianos I have heard, I suspect that this can be a problem. It may be possible to achieve a good connection by using West system glue between the agraffe and the bridge, and using machine screws to secure the agraffe to the bridge, while at the same time gluing them into the bridge with West system. Stephen Paulello's agraffes are glued to the bridge. Take a look again at the following close-up image of his agraffe. A light blue adhesive can be seen at the junction of the agraffe with the bridge. http://www.overspianos.com.au/plello1.jpg Notice also that its quite a good design since it has a low height from the bridge to the string plane. Unfortunately, this design could not be used for trichord stringing. Ron O. -- OVERS PIANOS - SYDNEY Grand Piano Manufacturers _______________________ Web http://overspianos.com.au mailto:info@overspianos.com.au _______________________
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