Baldwin pre-cut string

[Carl Meyer]

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Get your mind out of the gutter John.  It's spelled vise not vice.  Grin

Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.
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  From: John Ross=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:56 AM
  Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string


  Hi Michael,
  Mole wrenches, are called vice grips over here.
  Regards,
  John M. Ross
  Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
  jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
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    From: Michael Gamble=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:39 PM
    Subject: Fw: Baldwin pre-cut string


    Hello Glen & Del
    This pre-cut string is a strange idea. I thought pianos were always =
strung up from, as Del says, spools of overhead string.
    But I'd like to add a little something a-propos the kinks or bends =
in string. I have a policy when tuning an old piano, and whenever it is =
possible, to use the old string by simply loosening off its companion, =
straightening out the old string where it had been on the hitch, and =
threading it up to the old wrest-pin and tuning up. I find that when =
doing this the tonal quality stays the same and they don't stretch like =
a replacement new string. You just land up with maybe two coils or less =
on the two wrest-pins in question. The strings eventually straighten out =
pretty well. I find using a "mole-wrench" on the hitch pin a good idea =
to hold the string in place while fiddling around with the loose end. Is =
"mole wrench" an international term? It's an adjustable gripping tool =
which can grip with incredible force if needed and is adjusted by a =
knurled knob sticking out of the end of one of the handles. Good =
description?  :-)
    Michael G (UK)
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    From: Delwin D Fandrich=20
    To: Pianotech=20
    Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 5:31 PM
    Subject: Re: Baldwin pre-cut string



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      From: Crashvalve@aol.com=20
      To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
      Sent: October 22, 2003 5:13 AM
      Subject: Baldwin pre-cut string


      When I visited Conway in 73' they had precut and straightened wire =
to string the verticals. I know a straighter wire gives truer harmonics, =
Question is; does zig-zag roller straightening of piano wire have any =
downside like false beats etc ? If rollers are good, did Baldwin use =
then in two or four planes ?
      regards
      Glenn C.=20

    Unless there is a kink in the wire, any wire stretched to 150+ lbs =
of tension is going to be pretty straight. With this in mind I'm not =
sure what you mean when you say "a straighter wire gives truer =
harmonics."=20

    Baldwin uses straightened and pre-cut wire simply as a manufacturing =
expediency. These wires are purchased from Mapes to specification with =
each coming bundled in a package of, perhaps, a hundred or so identical =
wires labeled for a specific spot on a specific piano. These are then =
placed in one of several tubes set up so the stringer can pull whichever =
specific wire is needed in sequence as stringing progresses.

    The grand pianos are strung from standard 5-lb coils in rack held =
above the piano.

    Del
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