After being applied to a plank, what is the condition of the wood. Is it going to be able to be repinned or plugged at a latter stage, or is this application going to destroy the wrest plank so that it has to be replaced. The only time I would consider using any of these applications is when the piano is not worth doing anything to it, and the customer has been given the complete picture. Kerry Cooper Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@midstatesd.net> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 4:19 PM Subject: Tuning pin tightners > > > > > > What you need to do is order a bottle of "Garfields Pinblock > Destroyer" or > > "Pin-Loose" .... > > > > The Phantom Haranger > > Salem, MO > > "Hold on thar, pilgrim" You won't disparage my favorite pin > block restorer without getting feedback from this public advocate > at least. The parroting of detrimental effects of tuning pin > tightner shows an ignorance of what is really happening when one > applies GARFIELDS, or unwillingness to hear about decades of > satisfactory results from professional use of Garfields. > Part of the problem is there are a few brands of "TP > tightners" that don't work, or don't work nearly as well as > GARFIELDS. Whether they are "pinblock destroyers" or not I can't > truthfully say. I have never seen a pin block "destroyed" by > anything but oil, or booze, (grand pianos in bars) but even those > I have gotten favorable results from GARFIELDS. > Now in anticipation of the most recent spate of favorite "pin > block doping" solutions, I still stand by Garfields over the use > of CA. Don't get me wrong, I am not disparaging CA, I like it > actually for the one or two or three or up to a dozen loose pins. > That you don't have to tip the upright is another advantage. But > for over all looseness or sections of looseness nothing compares > to GARFIELDS except LUDENS, which because it costs twice as much I > only use when GARFIELDS fails and that has only been once and only > on two pins and that was a bar piano with a truly boozed block. > Even if all others ("dopes") have failed you can still use > GARFIELDS!!. I just did this on a studio piano in a school that > I have tuned for 3 years. The T pins showed a goop around them > and dripping down to the upper bearing. Well this spring the pins > were too loose, so the poor Meisner got tipped over and doused > with GARFIELDS. Now this is the worst case I have ever treated > so if GARFIELDS failed on this one I will humbly submit such a > report. But only 3 days after applying, it was up and tuned. > That was three weeks ago, I will see it next week and report the > results and offer digital photos. The pin block truly looks like > a mess. ==-rm > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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