no pastes on felts, they are a mess and with time the dust they inevitably catch will use the spoons' nickel,and they tend to create noises too !. I use spray lube on the spoons, it helps a tad. Bad results with pro lube that became gummy and non lubricant after some time, as CLP I should say. May be we will eventually discover that these teflon based products in solvents react in some way on some material that turn them gummy (nickel ? Best Isaac OLEG Entretien et réparation de pianos. PianoTech 17 rue de Choisy 94400 VITRY sur SEINE FRANCE tel : 033 01 47 18 06 98 fax : 033 01 47 18 06 90 cell: 06 60 42 58 77 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la > part de Farrell > Envoyé : jeudi 20 mars 2003 02:01 > À : Pianotech > Objet : Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions: Felt glue and spoon > lube. > > > I did the wippen heel action cloth replacement today. A > little dab of hot hide glue at each end of the rectangular > area, apply cloth, hold for about one minute while applying > glue to next wippen, set down. Turned out great. Very easy. > That hot hide glue grabs and sets FAST! > > To the best of my knowledge, Protek makes three products: > CPL for center pins, damper guide rail bushings, > underlevers, key pins and capstans; PROlube for the keybed, > keyframe, keypins and grand damper wires; and Multi-Purpose > Lubricant - a grease-type lubricant - for wood-to-wood, > wood-to-metal and metal-to-metal applications. > > Which of these are you referring to - or is there another > Protek product? > > Terry Farrell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 3:43 PM > Subject: Re: Upright Wippen Rebuilding Questions: Felt glue > and spoon lube. > > > > Kerry, > > Unless you are a fanatical stickler for > > historicity, I recommend that you use a very thick > > PVC-E type glue for your wippen cloths, such as can be > > readily bought at fabric stores as "Aileen's Twice as > > Tacky", etc.. They are the very easiest to use for all > > types of felt and cloth, almost paste in consistency, > > quick grip, dry clear and are easily removed with a > > damp rag in the future, if desired. > > I also recommend the thicker Protek paste ( such > > as is recommended for key pins )for the spoons. > > Shouldn't corrode anything, very slippery. > > Thump > > > > --- Kerry Cooper <brispiano@optushome.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be installing new jacks and attached > > > flanges. Is it best to simply > > > apply hide glue, stick together and let dry? Or are > > > their any significant > > > secrets to the process? > > > > > > You can use hide glue or Tite-bond. > > > > > > > I will be replacing heel/capstan action cloth. Is > > > hide glue applied over > > > the entire cloth/wood surface? Or is it just applied > > > at the forward and back > > > ends of the action cloth so that there is no glue > > > between the cloth and > > > wooden wippen heel? > > > > > > Glue is applied only to forward and back ends only. > > > This stops any future > > > noise that might arise due to glue soaking into the > > > Box/action cloth. > > > > > > > The spoons are tarnished a bit. I would rather not > > > replace if I can make > > > like new easily. I can simply give them a second or > > > two on the buffing wheel > > > and they will be shiny as ever - but what about the > > > surface metal left - > > > will it corrode faster than a new spoon? Can I coat > > > the buffed spoon with > > > Emrlon (or something like that - thought I had seen > > > it in Schaff catalog for > > > coating capstans - couldn't find it again) or > > > something else? > > > > > > Buff spoons, and light coat of mutton fat. Just a > > > smear to protect from air. > > > > > > Kerry > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pianotech list info: > > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on > your desktop! > > http://platinum.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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