Toxic epoxy---liver rejuvenation.

gordon stelter lclgcnp@yahoo.com
Sat, 8 Mar 2003 06:30:21 -0800 (PST)


Yes, Isaac, epoxy is certainly far more toxic than any
kind of Titebond, and this should certainly be a
consideration when choosing to use it, or another
glue.
I don't think it creates an "allergy", per-se, but,
like carbon monoxide, has cumulative effects that can
cause extreme sensitivity to itself, and other
chemicals as well. This is called "Multiple Chemical
Sensitivity", and is a very real condition!
     The best way to treat MCS is to stimulate the
liver ( vinegar, cayenne, ginger, garlic, lemon juice,
milk thistle extract )Grape fruit juice is also
excellent.  And drink pure water and get plenty of
fresh air. Sleeping with the windows open helps!
     T

 --- Isaac OLEG <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> Heard of people developing an allegiant after a few
> years working with
> epoxy, and then they can't approach the stuff
> anymore.
> 
> Seems a bit dangerous product in that matter.
> 
> Best
> 
> Isaac OLEG
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> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org
> > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
> > part de Farrell
> > Envoyé : vendredi 7 mars 2003 23:48
> > À : Pianotech
> > Objet : Re: Epoxy Man Strikes Again
> >
> >
> > 1. Other stuff is easier to use.
> >
> > OK. Maybe. But I have a relationship with epoxy.
> You can
> > understand that.
> >
> > 2. Somehow, It ended up in the wrong place. No
> time to
> > figure why, but
> > it needs to be fixed and cold hide glue is
> thermoplasty and
> > water soluble.
> >
> > Ouch, that smarts! Hmmmm. I see your point, but
> how hard is
> > it to make a new soundboard? I guess I would just
> say
> > measure twice, attach once.
> >
> > 3. Future removal.
> >
> > Why would you want to remove a bridge? And if you
> did, I
> > can only assume the board is going to be replaced
> - so cut
> > the darn thing out.
> >
> > 4. Tone killer, as reported by a friend who used
> epoxy glue
> > for a bridge (as an adhesive).
> >
> > Hmmm. Anyone know anything about this? Or is this
> an
> > offshoot of the "circle of sound" theory?
> >
> > I have never glued a bridge to a board. I will be
> doing so
> > soon. I know that you need good even clamping
> pressure when
> > using hide glue or Titebond. I have fear that I
> won't get
> > good pressure everywhere. Epoxy would eliminate
> that
> > concern. Anyone in the mood to convince me that I
> will get
> > a good bond by running a few screws through the
> board back
> > into the bridge? Or convince me epoxy is not a
> good choice
> > - haven't seen good evidence yet!
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@cox.net>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Epoxy Man Strikes Again
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >The top ten reasons NOT to epoxy bridges to
> soundboard are:
> > > >
> > > >   1.
> > > >   2.
> > > >   3.
> > > >   4.
> > > >   5.
> > > >   6.
> > > >   7.
> > > >   8.
> > > >   9.
> > > >10.
> > > >
> > > >Those are the reasons I can think of. Say you
> what?
> > > >
> > > >Terry Farrell
> > >
> > > You might want to invest in a bottle of Titebond
> and have
> > it sitting around
> > > on your bench for when the urge to mix epoxy
> strikes.
> > It's non toxic,
> > > washes off your hands with water, doesn't have
> the
> > vicious affinity for
> > > hair and eyebrows that epoxy does, and has a
> bond
> > strength exceeding the
> > > integrity of the materials you'll be gluing
> together in
> > this case. It has
> > > good initial tack characteristics, and won't let
> parts
> > happily slither
> > > around anywhere they wish to go until it
> eventually
> > hardens, like epoxy
> > > will. It mostly washes out of your shop rags,
> even the
> > ones you're wearing
> > > - unless you're using Titebond II, in which case
> I can't help you.
> > >
> > > In short, a fly swatted with a magazine will be
> just as
> > dead as one swatted
> > > with a battleship.
> > >
> > > Ron N
> > >
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