Actual piano question: Pin strength and chipboard Yamahas

[Benny L. Tucker]

     By the way: I live pretty close to the factory.
Want me to drive oiver there and give them a piece of
our collective minds on this? I really wouldn't mind!
    Regards,
    Thump

Yes, Yes, and more Yes!
We the tuners, aka the crippled ones, wish that every tech everywhere would
scream to the dealers and anybody else who will listen about the tight pin
problems. We've been complaining to the supervisors about this for a long
time. When it does show improvement, it is usually short lived and the
torque is going through the roof again.
    So please, do complain about the tight pins, to the management at
Yamaha, and the dealers (who the management listens to).
    To add insult to injury, they come around asking why the tunings suck!!
duh.
    And my arm and shoulder says, Thank You, for complaining

Benny L. Tucker
Yamaha Factory Tuner
Precision Piano Tuning & Repair
Thomaston, Ga.

----- Original Message -----
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: Actual piano question: Pin strength and chipboard Yamahas


> Thanks Ron!
>     Yes, the pins were in too tight. But this, in
> COMBINATION with their seemingly excessive tendency to
> flex, is what made tuning it so very, very obnoxious.
> (IMHO). If the pins were rock-solid-rigid, it wouldn't
> have really been so bad. (IMHO)
>      By the way: I live pretty close to the factory.
> Want me to drive oiver there and give them a piece of
> our collective minds on this? I really wouldn't mind!
>     Regards,
>     Thump
>
> --- Ron Nossaman <RNossaman@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Not that simple, you need the right balance
> > between, tensile strength and
> > >rigidity.   Now the trick is to get two engineers
> > to agree.  Once the pin
> > >gets in the field, we tech's bitch that there is
> > too much flex.
> > >Oh well, back to the drawing board.
> > >Roger
> >
> > It's not the pins that are the problem anyway.
> > They're just putting them in
> > too bloody tight. We used to have the same problems
> > with new Kimballs for
> > the same reason.
> >
> > Every year for the last five years or so, the Yamaha
> > pinning seems to get
> > tighter. Why are they doing this? The Thomaston
> > products are now very
> > difficult to tune, and I battled a new U3 last week
> > that was virtually
> > untunable for this reason.
> >
> > Ron N
> >
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