Old German Piano

[Steve Martin]

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Hi Terry

thanks for getting back! As we'd say, "She'll be right, mate!" I'm not =
sure but I think from posts I've read that we Aussies say setoff and you =
guys say "letoff". If we say letoff it normally means that one has bad =
gas - or so to speak!! ( not that I'd know anything about that!)
I was taught for height, to measure from the lockrail, hence the 20mm =
key height etc.

Terry, the basic thing was touch weight! The keys without the weight of =
the action feel almost too heavy and was wondering if removing the =
weights would even slightly lessen the touch weight? Have you ever done =
this? Everything else to me seems to be OK and fairly standard. Do you =
know if this is a common German piano problem? Most old American pianos =
that we have floating around don't have weighted keys!

Thanks again,

Steve.
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From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Old German Piano


> Oops! Please accept my appologies Steve. For whatever reason, I =
thought this might be just a one time project for you. My mistake. If =
that were the case, I just couldn't even imagine trying to get into =
touchweight, etc.
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> So, now that I blew that, what was your question? I think you asked =
about touchweight and removing leads. I have asked about vertical =
touchweight and don't think I have ever gotten or found or read a good =
treatment of it.
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> "Key height 20mm. drop 10.5mm, blow 47mm, setoff 3mm...."
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> How are you measuring key height? That is normally measured from the =
keybed and would most often be in the 60 mm range. What is drop on a =
vertical? Blow 47 mm - OK - if that works - could go even a tad shorter =
if that would work better. Setoff 3 mm - I assume you are speaking of =
let-off. I even sneak it in a bit closer often.
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> What were your questions? Did you get them answered?
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> Sorry again.
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> Terry Farrell
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> From: "Steve Martin" <smartin@dodo.com.au>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Old German Piano
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> Terry
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> yes Iam a piano tech! I completed an apprenticeship and have worked in =
the industry for sometime. I'm aware of the reams of material out there =
on all different subjects piano wise.=20
> Terry were you in on the " Newbies" thread sometime ago? It was =
refreshing to read one part  in which a tech wrote that we were all =
newbies to one degree or another. I can't recall who it was - doesn't =
really matter. This person thought that the term ought to be dropped and =
that we should just get on with the business of asking questions!
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> You wrote:
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> -----Are you a piano technician? You have basically asked how to =
regulate and weigh off an upright piano. There are entire books and =
courses dedicated to just these procedures.......
> In the original post what I was asking was about key weight and =
whether anyone could advise on any possible regulation other than =
standard, which I'd already completed.
> I asked mainly seeking some advice on whether anyone would have =
regulated a little differently. Perhaps someone has knowledge on the =
finer points of German pianos?!
> Here is what I wrote:
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> "The job was fairly basic. New dampers, tapes, etc. I regulated it to =
what I thought was a fair standard. Key height 20mm. drop 10.5mm, blow =
47mm, setoff 3mm, dampers begin the travel half way thru' the blow, Key =
mortices are OK. "
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> Steve Martin.
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> P.S. Local experts are thousands of kilometers away from here, and =
even then I'm not sure about how many of them I'd trust.
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> Have a great day!!
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>  Original Message -----=20
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Old German Piano
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> > Steve:
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> > Are you a piano technician? You have basically asked how to regulate =
and weigh off an upright piano. There are entire books and courses =
dedicated to just these procedures.
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> > I certainly don't mean to discourage you from working on pianos and =
asking about them, but I would recommend attending classes at regional =
and National PTG conferences to learn about these procedures. Have you =
done that? Do you have Reblitz? Solving a touchweight problem is =
something that can baffle even a experienced piano technician veteran. =
You might want to at least get a local expert to spend a few hours in =
consultation with you.
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> > Just some thoughts.
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> > Terry Farrell
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> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "Steve Martin" <smartin@dodo.com.au>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:48 PM
> > Subject: Old German Piano
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> > Robert
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> > A German upright (UR) piano. Sorry about the spelling!!
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> > I would appreciate any serious comments.
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> > Steve Martin.
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