Aural vs. electronic again, was "Re: Another newbie question"

[Richard Brekne]

Terry, tho I belive I am very much behind what your point is (as I think I understand it), I find the comment more aggreeable then not. Again... this does not bring into question the value that ETD's actually have. More likely it refuses to overstate their value. "First pass" for many tuners means taking the tuning very very close to the point the ETD checks out. From that point on only the ear can be usefull because only the ear can
make value judgements.

I also liked very very much  the "message"  our self declared newbie feels he has recieved. Tuning is ultimately an aural activity,  just as listening is an aural activity.  Gina Carter had a nice take on this a couple years back.

RicB

Farrell wrote:

> "The machine is only for the first-pass structuring of the tuning. There's a fit and finish to it which has to be aural (and  experienced), and not just in unisons work."
>
> My hand is not up, as I do all my unison tuning aurally. But what do you mean by the above statement? The machine for a first pass, and then no machine is fit to calculate a good final tuning? Not on a well scaled piano? Not with a SAT III with a good DOB adjustment? Not with a Verituner? I'm not saying you can't do it some other way, but Shirley you are not saying that a good machine, properly used, can't calculate a good tuning?
>
> Terry Farrell
>
> > At 10:39 AM -0500 1/19/03, Charles Neuman wrote:
> > >I guess the message I get is that the ETD is a useful tool, but ultimately
> > >it's best to think of tuning as an aural activity.
> >
> > Hands up, all  ETD tuners who do your final unison tuning with the
> > machine. The machine is only for the first-pass structuring of the
> > tuning. There's a fit and finish to it which has to be aural (and
> > experienced), and not just in unisons work.
> >
>
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