This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Re: DCWell I disagree on a couple of points. One: I just installed a full system with bottom cover on my own 1920 Geo. Steck Grand. I absolutely believe in the DC. I've seen untunable pianos given new life. I've seen soundboard cracks-so wide you could watch the owner's dog playing under her 1906 Steinway S-completely close up. And I've installed one in a Chickering quarter grand with a terrible pinblock that I had struggled to keep in tune for 2 years, owner then sold it two months later with the DC intact and it was hauled into the hills (literally), I got called to tune by the new owner and the darn thing almost needed no tuning--amazingly in tune. And that last piano had gone from a well-regulated climate in a manufactured home to an old farmhouse using wood-stove heat and it was the dead of winter. I honestly can't understand why any tech who works in an area of wide temp/humidity swings and has installed a few systems would not be as enthusiastic as I. Two: You said "...our primary reason for existance is not to make money." To which I say, with respect, bullmuffins. The primary function of any business is to make a profit. The primary purpose of any employment is to make money. Can we do that with integrity and honesty? Absolutely. But I'm not in business to be noble: it's my livelyhood. This is NOT a personal critisiscm of you or your operating philosophy, but making money is a good thing. I've made quite a lot of money on DC systems. And I've made my life simpler--when I tune pianos with DC systems I sincerely believe (from experience) that they tune more easily, require less pitch correction (if any), hold their tune better, and are simply more stable. I would like to see a well installed--plugged in and maintained--full DC system in every piano I'm asked to tune. Nor do I "push" the DC systems or act like the stereotypical life insurance salesman. For appropriate situations, I explain how climate affects the piano, point out any specific problems with their piano and environment, and give them a brochure and/or let them watch the video. I quote my price and two-thirds of the time they say "Gimme one." I know I'm not the only tech who's enthused about the DC, but I will stand down from my soapbox now, gotta go to work. I have 4 upright systems and 1 grand DC system sitting in boxes in my living room. I will be installing them this week and next. Alan Barnard Salem, MO -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On Behalf Of Armond Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:03 AM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: DC on 2/12/03 2:54 AM, KENNETH FINLAYSON at kennyfin@jetstream.net wrote: Hi List: Time and again I have come across DC installed in a piano, and I feel the customer has thrown his money away. What really was wrong was tight centre pins, or tight key bushings. As RPT's, our primary reason for existance is not to make money: but to ensure quality piano care within the musical community. I ran across another DC recently installed in a brand-new Samick. In my opinion, it was a waste of money, which gave satisfaction only to the piano store who made a profit by installing it. I never recommend DC. I don't believe in them. I might someday, but it would have to be under very extenuating circumstances. From David Slolnik, Feb 10, Vol 156 Section 3 :- "In fact, Steinway's web site makes absolutely no mention of DampChasers. They recommend maintaining the room environment at between 45% and 65% by the use of room humidification, dehumidification and air-conditioning. My experience has been that Steinway has been extremely reticent in recommencing the use of DampChasers, as they have no control over the quality of the installation, nor the dependability of the product itself." Kenneth Finlayson, RPT the thing is, soundboards, or real ones anyway, create the proper tone and curve at 42% humidity. the string tension against the board when strings are tuned at 440cps., also is engineerd to the proper curve in the soundboard. therefore, all soundboards should be kept at 42% relative humidty. granted the DC systems are not the best way to do this, but by far the practical way to, and are necessary and there are no different opions on the subject because piano engineering is mathematical and physical science. Armond ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ba/53/4c/07/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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