Antares, Like you said before "VT has change my life" , it has changed mine to. Now I can go for concert tunings without fear, spend much more time setting pins/strings, make fast and accurate pitch raises etc... My clients are realy happy and so am I. Before I knew the existence of this list I was an aural tuner , spending up to 3 hours for a tuning and rarely satisfied with the results. I didn't knew of the existence of ear-plugs to, so afther 3 tunings I was about half dead (and deaf) So one more time, thanks to you folks for having learned me about the Verituner, ear-plugs and many more things in our fantastic job. Pierre Gevaert, Belgium. ----- Original Message ----- From: "antares" <antares@euronet.nl> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Kent Swafford/....ETD generated tuning and refines it." > And I totally agree with you Richard, and it is very hard to describe these > things in words. > > However, aside from a little stretch, a little more stretch or no stretch, > the 'average' VT tuning is just stunning every time all the time. > Hence my continuing positive remarks. If we (generally speaking) can agree > on the fact that a 'most beautiful' ET tuning, a tuning that would certainly > qualify for any tuning exam with flying marks, can be made every time and on > any instrument (because it adjusts itself to every piano entity) than I say > that this ETD is 100 % reliable. The more so because it has proven itself > day after day and month after month and every time the result is bingo. > 'Most' tuners, after having tuned just one time with the VT, agree > immediately and are in awe, just like me, and this is my personal opinion, > and also 100 %. > > I am not a 'hero' with technical terms, I am just an everyday > tuner/technician and base my tuners opinion on my musicality and my > experience. > > > friendly greetings > from > > Antares, > > Amsterdam, Holland > > "where music is, no harm can be" > > visit my website at : http://www.concertpianoservice.nl/ > > > > From: Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> > > Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 09:41:01 +0200 > > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Subject: Re: Kent Swafford/....ETD generated tuning and refines it." > > > > Having never heard an expert tuning done with this device I must reserve > > comment a bit on its abilities. But I will say that in my experience there is > > no such thing as a 100% accurate tuning. The > > concept simply does not relate to anything in the real world. > > > > There IS a rather large variety of ways to specify what a "tuned" piano is and > > this even within the realm of equal temperament tuning. The US exam will > > specifies a pretty clearly defined tuning / > > stretch, yet there are many RPT's who do not tune this way. > > > > The problem with viewing what a tuning is in such a narrow way is that it > > simply closes off any avenue a tuner may choose to take that lends itself to > > creating differening effects with a tuning. A > > most simple example would be to point out the different effects created by > > differing stretch amounts. When it comes down to it, and within reasonable > > parameters... the only thing "right" or > > "wrong" or "accurate" in this sense about a tuning are consistancy related > > issues, and issues relating to how well the tuner succeded in accomplishing > > what he/she meant to accomplish. > > > > MHO > > > > RicB > > > > Farrell wrote: > > > >> The statement in the quotes was not mine. I was quoting from another post. > >> > >> But.......100% accurate? What does that mean? Everything (especially with > >> pianos) is a compromise. Any compromise can lean in one direction or another. > >> 100% accurate? I don't think it applies. > >> > >> Terry Farrell > > > > -- > > Richard Brekne > > RPT, N.P.T.F. > > UiB, Bergen, Norway > > mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no > > http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >
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