Voicing

David Love davidlovepianos@earthlink.net
Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:30:32 -0700


The presentations I've heard Franz Mohr give are for NY Steinway hammers.
The hammer is different than a Renner type is different and crown needling
is the approach.  Shoulder needling won't accomplish anything there.

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: September 19, 2002 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: Voicing


Jon Page wrote:

> Standard pre-voicing needle work.  Hammers hung, needled in this fashion.

Hi Jon... Andre is the only person I have ever run into with this order of
things. Almost everywhere I look we are told to needle first deep and low
for
power, then middle and half deep for mf, then shallow and close to top for
pp. The only real exceptions I have ever seen to this norm before were a
class at Sherman and Clay given by Franz Mohr who more or less called BS on
the whole voicing world and said its all about the crown, and the steam /
water/alchohol variants.

Are you saying that standard pre voicing is done by softening up the near
crown area  and then working on deep needling after the hammers are in the
piano ?

Interested:

RicB

>
>
> Jon Page
>
> At 11:30 PM 9/18/2002 +0200, you wrote:
> >Hi folks
> >
> >Ran into a neat "aha!" experience today while trying out
> >some of Andres tips about voicing. He uses an approach he
> >referes to as "battery" voicing, where the low deep needling
> >area of the felt is more or less kept in reserve as power to
> >be made available when needed.
> >
> >Well, today I got a bit carried away with some close to
> >crown needling on a few hammers in the bass / tenor change
> >over area, so I ran a about 6 deep single fat needle sticks
> >in well halfway down the hammer at 90 degrees from the core
> >and WOW !!... not only did all the volume I had lost come
> >back but a resiliency characteristic to the sound... as in
> >increased dynamics big time.
> >
> >In any case, for anyone struggling to get farther in voicing
> >skills,,,, next time you get an instrument that hasnt had a
> >lot of needling, but hammers are packed and hard from use
> >give this a try. The results are very very easy to hear,
> >instructive to be sure.
> >
> >Cheers!
> >
> >--
> >Richard Brekne
> >RPT, N.P.T.F.
> >UiB, Bergen, Norway
> >mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
> >http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html
> >
> >
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Richard Brekne
RPT, N.P.T.F.
UiB, Bergen, Norway
mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
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