This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment I believe the correct spread dimension is 113.5 for that piano. But = that is only part of the equation. If you feel the relationship between = the dip and blow distances is not correct, you will have to examine the = action ratio overall. Remember that one way to define the action ratio = is by that relationship: =20 Action ratio is equal to=20 blow distance - letoff=20 key dip - after touch=20 Or, more simply, the relationship between key travel and hammer travel. = This relationship has also been expressed in terms of weight by the = Stanwood formula. The point is that an action with a given action ratio and a targeted = blow distance will have to be set up with a corresponding dip. If you = want to alter the dip, you will have to alter either the action ratio or = the blow distance. I believe the action ratio on the Bechstein is = designed to be 5.75. This should give you approximately 47 mm blow with = 10 mm dip. If in fact there is too much aftertouch at 9.5 mm dip, then = it appears that the action ratio is somewhat higher than that. =20 The action ratio can be altered by changing the spread, moving the = capstan, or moving the knuckle. In this case, since you presumably = don't want to move the capstan or knuckle, one alternative is to alter = the spread. =20 By increasing the spread you will lower the action ratio. A lower = action ratio will mean that the piano will require deeper dip. Or, in = your case, you will have less aftertouch. Before doing this, you will = have to make sure that altering the spread doesn't create other problems = especially in terms of jack/knuckle alignment. =20 The other alternative is to reduce the blow distance. =20 A more precise measurement of the action ratio will give you a better = idea of what options you might pursue. David Love ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Isaac OLEG" <oleg-i@wanadoo.fr> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: September 15, 2002 1:06 PM Subject: Bechstein grand spread dimension, dear listers, Do someone have an idea of the spread dimension on grand Bechstein mod C (2M) . I service one that shows a 113.5 mm spread and I feel it is compressed yet, with too much after touch even at 47mm blow 9.5 mm dip. Because of the 9mm hammers regulation is of course more sensitive, but I'd appreciate the info without having to ask Bechstein and pay a $50 fee for this simple question. The whippen rail is not shimmed or stopped by nothing but screws, so it could possibly have moved a very little (a few tenths of mm may be). "standard" regulation dimension could be useful too. Thanks in advance. Regards. Isaac OLEG > -----Message d'origine----- > De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org > [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la > part de gordon stelter > Envoye : dimanche 15 septembre 2002 21:31 > A : Pianotech > Objet : Re: OT - Florida Update > > > Which is exactly why you should SEE Ruppert's site, > and THEN respond with sarcastic quips and such (if you > still feel like it )!!! Ruppert ONLY publishes > previously published materials ( from the Wall Street > Journal, NY Times, foreign newspapers, etc.. ) and > lets us connect the very obvious, and usually > factually demonstrable dots. > So please READ copvcia.com, and THEN come back > and ridicule me to your heart's content, if you still > feel so inclined!!! But I'll bet you won't. He's > formidably informed, internationally respected and no > "run-of-the-mill conspiracy crackpot"! > And if you won't read his site before dismissing > it, I can give no credence to your statements as they > obviously lack sincerity. > > Sincerely, > gordon Stelter > > > --- David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Conspiracy theories make good internet fodder, but > > don't believe everything > > you think. > > ] > > David Love > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > > Sent: September 15, 2002 10:41 AM > > Subject: Re: OT - Florida Update > > > > > > Dear Fellow Techs, > > Bush's incendiary diatribes against Saddam > > Hussein are nothing more than continued attempts to > > deflect public attention from his own sins regarding > > 9-11. Bush had VERY SPECIFIC warnings about an > > imminent Al Quaeda attack, from the intelligence > > services of a half dozen of our allies!!! But > > heeding > > them would not have furthered his agenda of invading > > Afghanistan and replacing the Afghan government, so > > that he could get the Trans Asia Pipeline ( in which > > he and Cheney are heavily invested ) up and running! > > He needed an excuse. And 9-11 provided it. > > One of my favorite websites is www.copvcia.com. > > It is run by Mike Ruppert, an highly respected LAPD > > narcotics detective who caught his fiancee smuggling > > narcotics for the CIA ( under Bush senior ) in 1977. > > It is full of Bush-family "fun facts" such as: > > 1) Grandfather Prescott's extensive business > > dealings > > with Adolph Hitler, 1923-1943. ( Prescott had his > > businesses seized by Congress under the "Doing > > Business With The Enemy" act in 1943! 2 years after > > we > > entered WWII, Prescott was still helping Hitler make > > explosives and nerve gas. ( This is undeniable, as > > it > > is part of the Congressional Record.) 2) The "Iran > > Contra Affair", during which the CIA smuggled > > massive > > quantities of narcotics into the US ( I have a > > tuning > > customer, a Marine who did White House guard duty > > for > > Reagan under Ollie North, who has admitted this one > > to > > me personally.) Read "Dark Alliance" Gary Webb's > > great > > book on the subject. No author or publisher of any > > book on "iran Contra" has ever been sued for libel! > > 3)Our current "President"'s extensive, 20 year > > dealings with the Bin Laden family, and the events > > leading to 9-11 which PROVE Bush knew it was coming, > > and intentionally did NOTHING!!! ( If not, in fact, > > aggravate the possibility, as did Roosevelt with the > > Japanese before Pearl Harbor.) > > Mike Ruppert is no nut!!! If his website > > somehow > > doesn't convince you, it becomes quite evident when > > you see him speak! He is an increasingly popular > > speaker on campuses, radio, elsewhere and his > > newsletter is subscribed to by at least 20 members > > of > > Congress. He recently opened the National Press Club > > luncheon for the families of 9-11 fatalities, and it > > was the first National Press Club luncheon that > > C-Span > > refused to televise in 10 years!!! > > I believe Bush would start WWIII just to > > prevent > > these facts from becoming part of permanent written > > history! > > > > Go to copvcia.com and read for > > yourselves!!!!!!!!! > > You will be astounded. > > > > A True Patriot > > Gordon Stelter > > > > > > > > > > > > --- David Andersen <bigda@gte.net> wrote: > > > >Heres a thought... if it is truly so desirable to > > > "take out" Sadam.... you > > > >only > > > >need one man, not an army. > > > > > > Absolutely. I've been saying the same thing for > > > years. Between the US > > > "special ops," the Israeli Mossad, and the British > > > MI5, I would think > > > terminating that dude with extreme prejudice would > > > be eminently doable. > > > And if it's not....what the HELL are all that > > money > > > and training and > > > those intelligence resources good for, anyway? > > > > > > The problem is, who comes next, and can we be > > > assured it will be any > > > different? > > > > > > You can bet your bottom dollar that the leaders of > > > Congress are demanding > > > hard, and I mean HARD evidence, current evidence, > > > picture and artifact > > > evidence, of Iraqui weapons of mass destruction > > > before they'll sign off > > > on spending massive blood and treasure to get this > > > guy. > > > > > > Question: is Saddam suicidal? If he launched a > > > strike against Israel or > > > Turkey, or anyone, with nuclear, biological, or > > > chemical weapons, he > > > would be sealing his own imminent, immediate doom. > > > That is > > > incontrovertible. A slam dunk. No question. Are > > ya > > > feelin' > > > lucky......punk? > > > > > > I don't think that's gonna happen. > > > > > > David A. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > pianotech list info: > > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > > http://news.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: > > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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