OT - Florida Update

[Alan R. Barnard]

Booooooooooooo, hisssssssssssss, get off the stage.

AB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Florida Update


> Dear David,
>      Not hardly. While it is true that a few of
> Ruppert's sources are foreign newspapers whose reports
> are difficult to substantiate, Ruppert identifies
> these.  An adequate number remain ( Wall Street
> Journal, New York Times, Congressional Record, ABC,
> CBS, NBC, BBC etc.,) which, when taken together, paint
> a very clear, undeniable picture of Bush's attempts to
> "cut a deal" ( for oil ) with the Taliban, and our
> government's subsequent "negligence" in stopping the
> attacks!  FBI agents have even testified before
> Congress using terms like "obstructed" when referring
> to how their warnings of imminent danger were recieved
> by superiors. And, if Jews avoided the World Trade
> Center that morning, it is because they heard of, and
> heeded, Israeli Intelligence warnings of imminent
> danger.  I do not ( and neither does Ruppert!!! )
> imply that Bush PLANNED the attacks. Rather, only that
> he knew SOMETHING was afoot, and intentionally did
> nothing to thwart it as an attack would knowingly aid
> his ( and his buddies') monetaray interests!!! 
> Remember that Bush claimed to KNOW it was Osama on the
> AFTERNOON of Sept.11, but would not tell us HOW he
> knew, and has continually discouraged any
> investigation into the attacks since!!! 
>       But I have spent enough time on this. I have
> notified everyone of copvcia.com, and will now move
> on. Please just look at it yourselves. I have read it,
> seen his presentation, and am convinced (as are many
> of my very sober friends in the mainstream clergy )
> that he's on target.
>      But on the greater issue "off-topics" I am truly
> saddened that some do not see their relevance. WWIII
> could greatly affect our business ( especially being
> in "non-essentials" ) and make our pursuit of the
> "perfect unison" rather moot!!!  Even more
> importantly, we are not ( hopefully ) 2 dimensional
> creatures learning a repetitive task to fill an
> earthly market niche!  Occassional forays into
> religious, philosophical or political subjects are
> only part of being a normal, "well rounded" human. If
> I see one of no particular interest, I simply delete
> it. 
>      Most Respectfully,
>      Gordon Lee Stelter
> 
> --- David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Claims of the Bushes conspiring to allow 9-11 to
> > happen are not new.  Some
> > French papers have argued for a joint Israeli-US
> > plot to allow the trade
> > centers to be demolished and have purported that as
> > the reason that all the
> > Jews didn't show up for work that day.  I'm not a
> > Bush defender, there is
> > much I find to disagree with in terms of policy.  
> > And, in fact, I think the
> > Iraqi invasion is, at least, premature.  I am an
> > advocate for critical
> > thinking and common sense.  Something that is
> > profoundly uncommon.
> > Ruppert's site is creatively put together from
> > various unsubstantiated
> > accusations and editorials.  You want to read
> > something interesting.  Read
> > Carl Sagan's "The Demon Haunted World".  You might
> > gain some insight as to
> > why people are prone to believe so much crap.
> > 
> > David Love
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: September 15, 2002 12:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: OT - Florida Update
> > 
> > 
> > Which is exactly why you should SEE Ruppert's site,
> > and THEN respond with sarcastic quips and such (if
> > you
> > still feel like it )!!!  Ruppert ONLY publishes
> > previously published materials ( from the Wall
> > Street
> > Journal, NY Times, foreign newspapers, etc.. ) and
> > lets us connect the very obvious, and usually
> > factually demonstrable dots.
> >      So please READ copvcia.com, and THEN come back
> > and ridicule me to your heart's content, if you
> > still
> > feel so inclined!!!  But I'll bet you won't.  He's
> > formidably informed, internationally respected and
> > no
> > "run-of-the-mill conspiracy crackpot"!
> >      And if you won't read his site before
> > dismissing
> > it, I can give no credence to your statements as
> > they
> > obviously lack sincerity.
> > 
> >      Sincerely,
> >      gordon Stelter
> > 
> > 
> > --- David Love <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Conspiracy theories make good internet fodder, but
> > > don't believe everything
> > > you think.
> > > ]
> > > David Love
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "gordon stelter" <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: September 15, 2002 10:41 AM
> > > Subject: Re: OT - Florida Update
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Fellow Techs,
> > >      Bush's incendiary diatribes against Saddam
> > > Hussein are nothing more than continued attempts
> > to
> > > deflect public attention from his own sins
> > regarding
> > > 9-11. Bush had VERY SPECIFIC warnings about an
> > > imminent Al Quaeda attack,  from the intelligence
> > > services of a half dozen of our allies!!! But
> > > heeding
> > > them would not have furthered his agenda of
> > invading
> > > Afghanistan and replacing the Afghan government,
> > so
> > > that he could get the Trans Asia Pipeline ( in
> > which
> > > he and Cheney are heavily invested ) up and
> > running!
> > > He needed an excuse. And 9-11 provided it.
> > >      One of my favorite websites is
> > www.copvcia.com.
> > > It is run by Mike Ruppert, an highly respected
> > LAPD
> > > narcotics detective who caught his fiancee
> > smuggling
> > > narcotics for the CIA ( under Bush senior ) in
> > 1977.
> > > It is full of Bush-family "fun facts" such as:
> > > 1) Grandfather Prescott's extensive business
> > > dealings
> > > with Adolph Hitler, 1923-1943. ( Prescott had his
> > > businesses seized by Congress under the "Doing
> > > Business With The Enemy" act in 1943! 2 years
> > after
> > > we
> > > entered WWII, Prescott was still helping Hitler
> > make
> > > explosives and nerve gas. ( This is undeniable, as
> > > it
> > > is part of the Congressional Record.)  2) The
> > "Iran
> > > Contra Affair", during which the CIA smuggled
> > > massive
> > > quantities of narcotics into the US ( I have a
> > > tuning
> > > customer, a Marine who did White House guard duty
> > > for
> > > Reagan under Ollie North, who has admitted this
> > one
> > > to
> > > me personally.) Read "Dark Alliance" Gary Webb's
> > > great
> > > book on the subject.  No author or publisher of
> > any
> > > book on "iran Contra" has ever been sued for
> > libel!
> > > 3)Our current "President"'s extensive, 20 year
> > > dealings with the Bin Laden family, and the events
> > > leading to 9-11 which PROVE Bush knew it was
> > coming,
> > > and intentionally did NOTHING!!! ( If not, in
> > fact,
> > > aggravate the possibility, as did Roosevelt with
> > the
> > > Japanese before Pearl Harbor.)
> > >      Mike Ruppert is no nut!!!  If his website
> > > somehow
> > > doesn't convince you, it becomes quite evident
> > when
> > > you see him speak! He is an increasingly popular
> > > speaker on campuses, radio, elsewhere and his
> > > newsletter is subscribed to by at least 20 members
> > > of
> > > Congress. He recently opened the National Press
> > Club
> > > luncheon for the families of 9-11 fatalities, and
> > it
> > > was the first National Press Club luncheon that
> > > C-Span
> > > refused to televise in 10 years!!!
> > >      I believe Bush would start WWIII just to
> > > prevent
> > > these facts from becoming part of permanent
> > written
> > > history!
> > >
> > >      Go to copvcia.com and read for
> > > yourselves!!!!!!!!!
> > >      You will be astounded.
> > >
> > >      A True Patriot
> > >      Gordon Stelter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- David Andersen <bigda@gte.net> wrote:
> > > > >Heres a thought... if it is truly so desirable
> > to
> > > > "take out" Sadam.... you
> > > > >only
> > > > >need one man, not an army.
> > > >
> > > > Absolutely.  I've been saying the same thing for
> > > > years.  Between the US
> > > > "special ops," the Israeli Mossad, and the
> > British
> > > > MI5, I would think
> > > > terminating that dude with extreme prejudice
> > would
> > > > be eminently doable.
> > > > And if it's not....what the HELL are all that
> > > money
> > > > and training and
> > > > those intelligence resources good for, anyway?
> > > >
> > > > The problem is, who comes next, and can we be
> > > > assured it will be any
> > > > different?
> > > >
> > > > You can bet your bottom dollar that the leaders
> > of
> > > > Congress are demanding
> > > > hard, and I mean HARD evidence, current
> > evidence,
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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