EBVT imbalances disproven?

[Ron Koval]

In response to the recent numbers from Bill Bremmer:

B2-D#3:16.7  Db3-F3:16.5  E3-G#3:16.3  F#3-A#3:17.0  Ab3-C4:16.4


These, I assume are measured width of the major third in cents.  It would 
provide a better picture if you could do them all, because now it appears 
that you have managed to aurally replicate the effect of the Moore 
Temperament. (at about 130% strength)

B2-D#3:16.5  Db3-F3:16.5 E3-G#3:16.5 F#3-A#3:16.5 Ab3-C4:16.5

Once again, eveness of cents doesn't translate into eveness of progression 
through the circle.  In the Moore temperament, even though all those thirds 
measure the same, the Ab-C third is the one that plays with the most "bite"

Ed Foote hasn't lied, he's just used the numbers that Bill has put out on 
the list and published on his website.  Contrast the above numbers with the 
current Kanter graph found on the website:

B2-D#3:14.78  Db3-F3:13.69  E3-G#3:19.46  F#3-A#3:13.69  Ab3-C4:13.69

Notice the E-G# third that ends up 19.46 from pure, contrasting with the 
ET-sized third for F#-A# at 13.69.  These numbers were developed following 
the aural bearing plan that Bill Bremmer posted on his website.  There have 
been numbers crunched by others, using the aural instructions (Scott, 
Formosa, Bailey, Foote) that all seem to reflect some problems progressing 
through the circle of fifths.

It may also be helpfull to compare the numbers measured in the last day or 
two:

( n/r = not recorded)

Piano                   B2-D#3  Db3-F3  E3-G#3  F#3-A#3  Ab3-C4

Walter Studio         n/r       n/r      15.8    18.8       n/r__
Weber Grand          17.0         18.2     16.6    17.6       n/r
Acrosonic            16.1        18.7      14.3   18.6      14.8
Yamaha P22           18.1         18.9     15.3   18.7      18.0
Everett Studio       16.9         17.3     15.8   16.7      16.3
Knabe Console        16.6         16.6     16.0    14.8     14.8
Kawai Console        16.9         15.7      14.5   16.2     15.1

I'm leaning towards my previous post, where I said this my fall under 
something other than a temperament.  If it's not repeatable and consistant, 
something else is going on.  I'm still interested in hearing about your 
experiments, because your tunings play well, and you've obviously had 
success tuning the way you do.  I think somehow, you are customizing the 
tuning to the instrument, based on your experience and your ear dictiating 
how to set the intervals.  I have been noticing that certain temperaments 
"fit" certain instruments better.  Those ubiquitious Baldwin uprights smooth 
out with a Moore, while P22's seem to respond to my current EBK temperament. 
  You may be temperament 'morphing' without being aware of the change in the 
numbers.

Thanks for keeping up with the research

Ron Koval









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