Schimmel Upright question

[Carl Meyer]

Tony, it's like what we hear all the time.  "It's okay to practice on"  I don't have to be in a funny mood for that to bug me.

Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG
Santa Clara, California
cmpiano@attbi.com 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Caught" <caute@optusnet.com.au>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: Re: Schimmel Upright question


> Hi Ric,
> 
> Maybe I'm in a funny mood but this comment    :-
> 
> "I know this seems like a terrible cheat but after all its only an upright
> so read on. "
> 
> -: really bugs me. Upright pianos are the life force of the piano industry
> not grand pianos. Our livelyhood depends on them.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tony Caught
> caute@optusnet.com.au
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@midstatesd.net>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Schimmel Upright question
> 
> 
> > You might find the action OK, but if they want it still lighter
> > give them a little lost motion.  I know this seems like a terrible
> > cheat but after all its only an upright so read on.  Sounds like
> > the dealer was asleep and could or should have included a Damp
> > Chaser with it.  This is in the Houston area?  I am guessing it
> > has been on the floor long enough to pick up some Houston
> > Humidity.   Dirty trick #3.   "There is a play in period.  If
> > after 100 hours there is dissatisfaction......." BUT guess what?
> > By then there is lost motion and lost motion can actually lighten
> > touch.
> >      Consider what is called "break away tension", which is the
> > excess over inertia caused by friction for which an extra effort
> > is needed to get the hammer moving.  However if there is 1mm of
> > lost mo that means the key moves 1mm before trying to move the
> > hammer. Thus the break away of the key has already been over come
> > PLUS  the key is in momentum when the jack comes in contact with
> > the butt.   This extra momentum diminishes the feel of the
> > resistance of the break away friction created by the various
> > centers of which some are tighter than others and a few too loose.
> >     Depending on how the factory deals with friction in the
> > various flange centers.  You should see how they do it at the
> > Walter's factory.
> >
> >  I can't believe anyone would spend 13,000 on any musical
> > instrument until it was to their EXACT
> >               ---ric
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Avery Todd
> >   To: pianotech@ptg.org
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:18 PM
> >   Subject: Schimmel Upright question
> >
> >
> >   List,
> >
> >   Does anyone have any experience with Schimmel uprights? I
> > received this from
> >   one of my outside customers and will be going to check it out in
> > the next
> >   day or so. Here's a part of the e-mail:
> >
> >   >Dace bought a replacement, a Schimmel vertical, from the Piano
> > Store on
> >   >Westheimer.  Unfortunately, I
> >   >don't remember the model number, but the piano listed for
> > approximately
> >   >$13,000.  While trying out the
> >   >piano in the store, Dace noticed that the touch was just a tiny
> > bit heavy
> >   >and asked if it could be adjusted
> >   >if he decided to buy the instrument.  He was assured by the
> > salesperson
> >   >that the action could indeed be
> >   >adjusted
> >
>