Schimmel Upright question

Tony Caught caute@optusnet.com.au
Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:32:11 +0930


Hi Ric,

Maybe I'm in a funny mood but this comment    :-

"I know this seems like a terrible cheat but after all its only an upright
so read on. "

-: really bugs me. Upright pianos are the life force of the piano industry
not grand pianos. Our livelyhood depends on them.

Regards

Tony Caught
caute@optusnet.com.au
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Moody" <remoody@midstatesd.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Schimmel Upright question


> You might find the action OK, but if they want it still lighter
> give them a little lost motion.  I know this seems like a terrible
> cheat but after all its only an upright so read on.  Sounds like
> the dealer was asleep and could or should have included a Damp
> Chaser with it.  This is in the Houston area?  I am guessing it
> has been on the floor long enough to pick up some Houston
> Humidity.   Dirty trick #3.   "There is a play in period.  If
> after 100 hours there is dissatisfaction......." BUT guess what?
> By then there is lost motion and lost motion can actually lighten
> touch.
>      Consider what is called "break away tension", which is the
> excess over inertia caused by friction for which an extra effort
> is needed to get the hammer moving.  However if there is 1mm of
> lost mo that means the key moves 1mm before trying to move the
> hammer. Thus the break away of the key has already been over come
> PLUS  the key is in momentum when the jack comes in contact with
> the butt.   This extra momentum diminishes the feel of the
> resistance of the break away friction created by the various
> centers of which some are tighter than others and a few too loose.
>     Depending on how the factory deals with friction in the
> various flange centers.  You should see how they do it at the
> Walter's factory.
>
>  I can't believe anyone would spend 13,000 on any musical
> instrument until it was to their EXACT
>               ---ric
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Avery Todd
>   To: pianotech@ptg.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:18 PM
>   Subject: Schimmel Upright question
>
>
>   List,
>
>   Does anyone have any experience with Schimmel uprights? I
> received this from
>   one of my outside customers and will be going to check it out in
> the next
>   day or so. Here's a part of the e-mail:
>
>   >Dace bought a replacement, a Schimmel vertical, from the Piano
> Store on
>   >Westheimer.  Unfortunately, I
>   >don't remember the model number, but the piano listed for
> approximately
>   >$13,000.  While trying out the
>   >piano in the store, Dace noticed that the touch was just a tiny
> bit heavy
>   >and asked if it could be adjusted
>   >if he decided to buy the instrument.  He was assured by the
> salesperson
>   >that the action could indeed be
>   >adjusted
>



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