The True Properties of EBVT

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:56:53 -0700


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Ain't it the truth...
D.I.
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From: Jason Kanter <jkanter@rollingball.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 07:12:45 -0700
Subject: Re: The True Properties of EBVT

>From Jorgensen, page 295:

"Charles Earl Stanhope's treatise, "Principles of the Science of Tuning Instruments with Fixed Tones," created much interest and controversy. Immediately, negative reviews appeared. Some of these were caused by Stanhope's statement that half of the musicians preferred the idea of equal temperament while the other half were diametrically opposed to it. This divided the musicians into camps, some of whom were offended by Stanhope's extreme criticism of equal temperament and also by his implication that everyone who had heard the Stanhope temperament was converted to it."

It's a steady state universe.


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From: SidewaysWell1713@AOL.COM
Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:39:54 EDT
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: Re: The True Properties of EBVT




Ed Foote lied and tried to escalate a fight on this list as he has done many times in the past by saying:



This
doesn't change the fact that the ebvt creates a more tempered E-G# of
17+cents than the F#-A# of 13.7.  It is folly to think that going up two
semitones will somehow make the F# third seem to beat faster.  It doesn't,

and the harmonic balance is poor because of it.


These are the correct figures which Ed knows are correct and do not create an imbalance but instead, Equal Beating, which is allowed under Werkmeister's rules:

E3           17.5

F#3         16.0

I tune by ear, so rather than depending on a program, I listen to what I am doing.  The very last thing I would ever do is create a temperament which has the kind of imbalances which Ed maliciously used to try to discredit what I've been doing for 10 years.

Many of you may not understand what this argument is about but that doesn't really matter.  What does matter is Ed Foote's history of making public, defamatory statements.

Therefore, I have adopted a new screen name which I will use to remind everyone of this.  I'll keep using this screen name until Ed Foote admits that the EBVT does indeed meet the Rules of Well Tempered Tuning.

The EBVT has never substantially changed since it was designed 10 years ago but Ed Foote has been trying to discredit and supress it all along.  Anyone can design their own temperament who wants to, it's not at all difficult.  I had designed several before hitting on the EBVT idea which produced the most generally appealing sound of any idea I had known of before or since.

I'm sticking to what I know how to do and will not be intimidated by someone who can only copy numbers out of a book.  There are many people who have learned to tune the EBVT and there is growing interest in it.  That will continue as will this reminder that Ed Foote once again went way too far.

Bill Bremmer RPT
Madison, Wisconsin
Click here: -=w w w . b i l l b r e m m e r . c o m =- <http://www.billbremmer.com/>


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