tuning in noisy environments.

[David Love]

Well it's better than threatening them with a gun.

David Love

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Bergantino" <rptbob1@ameritech.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: November 24, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: tuning in noisy environments.


Hi David:  But you d on't have to "demand" anything.  A calm request will
lead to your customer understanding what the problem is.  No losers in this
kind of situation.

Bob Bergantino; been there, done that.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: tuning in noisy environments.


> Though it's certainly possible to get the job done in a relatively noisy
> environment, there is no question that my tunings are better when it is
> quiet, especially in the extremes.  An ETD can help.  But the thread
started
> with the question of when and how to communicate with the customer that
the
> environment is not conducive to doing the best work.  I recall when I was
> just starting out, going to a customers home and when I sat down to start
> tuning, the customer was joined by another person in the same room to sit
> down and conduct a conversation.  I was too new and intimidated to ask
that
> they leave or be quiet.  By the time I was done, I was so aggravated by
the
> situation that who knows what kind of job I did.  Only afterward did I
> realize that I would have been much better off making my demands for
> silence.  If I end up not doing such a good job because of the
environment,
> and somebody hears later that the tuning was not so good, they will not
> consider the mitigating factors, only that I didn't do my job so well.
When
> the situation cannot be controlled, then you do your best.  But when you
can
> do something, you owe it to yourself to speak up.
>
> David Love
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Kurta" <mkurta@adelphia.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: November 24, 2002 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: tuning in noisy environments.
>
>
>     Hi Guys & Gals:
>     Speaking from lots of experience tuning in noisy environments, i.e.
> casinos, entertainment venues, nursing home bingo games, etc, may I  add
> some comments:
> Unless extraneous noise is SO loud as to really interfere with hearing the
> piano, I've found it is mainly a mental distraction.  Unless it is easily
> reduced or eliminated, mind training to discriminate and mentally shut out
> the unwanted noise helps.  Its not easy to do (don't think of an
elephant),
> but with practice it works.  Focusing on the job at hand, and not letting
> the distracting noise bother has helped me.
>     Mike Kurta
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Don" <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:19 AM
> Subject: tuning in noisy environments.
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I find that soft sounds interfer with my tuning skills far more than
> > moderately loud ones. I.e. if it doesn't drown out the piano's voice I
can
> > tune through the extranious sounds. What I hate tuning through is a
clock
> > ticking in the room. That disrupts me and slows me down more than any
> other
> > sound I've found so far.
> >
> > At 09:04 PM 11/23/02 -0600, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>Yes, tune aurally only.  Would listening to piano music confuse a
> machine?
> > >>Arthur
> > >
> > >Probably not. So what you've got with the Mozart, is either a holistic
> > >analog subjective comparative ETD, or the endorphins. Realistically, we
> can
> > >talk ourselves into, or out of, hearing what we're doing with tuning to
a
> > >greater degree than we will normally acknowledge. I can, and do, easily
> > >ignore overhead ceiling fans and television newscasts without insipid
> theme
> > >songs, but find inane conversation, running water, and anything that
> > >clinks, crackles, or rattles difficult to get around. The degree of
> > >detriment of the background noise to tuning is very much dependent on
the
> > >aggravation level. I would guess Barry Manilo possibly wouldn't
decrease
> > >your tuning stress level all that much.
> > >
> > >Ron N
> > >
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> >
> > Regards,
> > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. Tuner for the Center
of
> > the Arts
> >
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