Hi, The soundboard of a piano will pick up the extranious noise. *grin* just like a big ear drum. Now if you use a magnetic pickup, put it thru an accutuner for filtering and then into a small amp and wear headphones you can *work* with a 40,000 watt sound system going *full tilt*. It's a slow process and you need to know exactly which partial to tune for each note--so you need to set up a chart on the particular piano first in a quiet situation. At 12:54 PM 11/24/02 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Just a thought for you all. I don't know how it would work, but it couldn't >hurt to try it.... > >If you have to tune in a difficult environment and need to weed out >extraneous noise, how about using a contact microphone (a.k.a. soundingboard >microphone), feeding to an amplifier, feeding to a pair of can-type >headsets??? You'd only be listening to the vibrations of the soundingboard >and not to the airborne vibrations around you. > >Take it or leave it... :-) > >Peace, >Sarah > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@earthlink.net> >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 12:41 PM >Subject: Re: tuning in noisy environments. > > >> Though it's certainly possible to get the job done in a relatively noisy >> environment, there is no question that my tunings are better when it is >> quiet, especially in the extremes. An ETD can help. But the thread >started >> with the question of when and how to communicate with the customer that >the >> environment is not conducive to doing the best work. I recall when I was >> just starting out, going to a customers home and when I sat down to start >> tuning, the customer was joined by another person in the same room to sit >> down and conduct a conversation. I was too new and intimidated to ask >that >> they leave or be quiet. By the time I was done, I was so aggravated by >the >> situation that who knows what kind of job I did. Only afterward did I >> realize that I would have been much better off making my demands for >> silence. If I end up not doing such a good job because of the >environment, >> and somebody hears later that the tuning was not so good, they will not >> consider the mitigating factors, only that I didn't do my job so well. >When >> the situation cannot be controlled, then you do your best. But when you >can >> do something, you owe it to yourself to speak up. >> >> David Love >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Kurta" <mkurta@adelphia.net> >> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Sent: November 24, 2002 8:06 AM >> Subject: Re: tuning in noisy environments. >> >> >> Hi Guys & Gals: >> Speaking from lots of experience tuning in noisy environments, i.e. >> casinos, entertainment venues, nursing home bingo games, etc, may I add >> some comments: >> Unless extraneous noise is SO loud as to really interfere with hearing the >> piano, I've found it is mainly a mental distraction. Unless it is easily >> reduced or eliminated, mind training to discriminate and mentally shut out >> the unwanted noise helps. Its not easy to do (don't think of an >elephant), >> but with practice it works. Focusing on the job at hand, and not letting >> the distracting noise bother has helped me. >> Mike Kurta >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Don" <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca> >> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> >> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:19 AM >> Subject: tuning in noisy environments. >> >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > I find that soft sounds interfer with my tuning skills far more than >> > moderately loud ones. I.e. if it doesn't drown out the piano's voice I >can >> > tune through the extranious sounds. What I hate tuning through is a >clock >> > ticking in the room. That disrupts me and slows me down more than any >> other >> > sound I've found so far. >> > >> > At 09:04 PM 11/23/02 -0600, you wrote: >> > > >> > >>Yes, tune aurally only. Would listening to piano music confuse a >> machine? >> > >>Arthur >> > > >> > >Probably not. So what you've got with the Mozart, is either a holistic >> > >analog subjective comparative ETD, or the endorphins. Realistically, we >> can >> > >talk ourselves into, or out of, hearing what we're doing with tuning to >a >> > >greater degree than we will normally acknowledge. I can, and do, easily >> > >ignore overhead ceiling fans and television newscasts without insipid >> theme >> > >songs, but find inane conversation, running water, and anything that >> > >clinks, crackles, or rattles difficult to get around. The degree of >> > >detriment of the background noise to tuning is very much dependent on >the >> > >aggravation level. I would guess Barry Manilo possibly wouldn't >decrease >> > >your tuning stress level all that much. >> > > >> > >Ron N >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > > >> > > >> > >> > Regards, >> > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. Tuner for the Center >of >> > the Arts >> > >> > mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca >> > >> > http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ >> > >> > 3004 Grant Rd. >> > REGINA, SK >> > S4S 5G7 >> > 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. Tuner for the Center of the Arts mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK S4S 5G7 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
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