WAY OT : Do you have any understanding of my rights asanAmericancitizen?

[David Love]

Alan:

Neither side is immune from disingenuousness.  If you are being honest you
will be just as critical of Trent Lott's promise to "revisit" the Republican
pork attached to the Homeland Security Act as you are of Daschle's so called
motives in his expression of outrage.  Even McCain recognized the payoff and
dismissed that promise as false.

David Love


----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan R. Barnard" <mathstar@salemnet.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: November 20, 2002 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: WAY OT : Do you have any understanding of my rights
asanAmericancitizen?


I wasn't the one who made the strange comment about Daschle and I certainly
don't advocate assassination as a solution to ANY problem in American
politics. But I also strongly urge folks not to take Sen. Daschle's very
calculated ravings at face value. He has a nasty personal agenda. The answer
is easy: Every time he--or ANYONE--throws out unsubstantiated manure like
this, just  say "Show us the proof. Give us some examples." Watch them go
"Aaahh .... g ...duh ... I ... uh.. well ..."

In Daschle's case, he simply doesn't like anyone criticizing him or his
motives so he seeks to misdirect his supporters and slander his
detractors--but in a sad, quiet, "concerned" kind of way. It's an old
technique of his and he works it to perfection.

Sorry, list. I'll try to keep quiet. But, as they say, hold on to your hats
because things are going to get extremely ugly after New Year's--it will be
tongue and claw in congress and in the press, guaranteed. Sad.

And Susan, God love you but I have to ask a question like I suggested above:
"What right-wing outrage?" One or two radical stray comments does not make a
national movement. And it's the left-wing that got blitzed in the elections
... they are the ones all bent out of shape these days, it seems to me. Want
to hear some real outrage and raving? I direct you to James Carville, Terry
McAuliffe, Alec Baldwin (who actually did publicly advocate the murder of
Republicans, specifically to lynch Henry Hyde and his entire family), the
"mourners" at the memorial for Sen. Wellstone, etc. Ugly is ugly. Truth is
truth.

Alan Barnard
Salem, MO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Kline" <sckline@attbi.com>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: WAY OT : Do you have any understanding of my rights as
anAmericancitizen?


> At 09:15 PM 11/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Now it seems someone is advocating the murder of U.S. Senators. I'm
> >sitting here wondering just what to say. I'm shocked to grossly
understate.
>
> I was shocked by that, as well. If it was a joke, it was in singularly bad
> taste. I watched Sen. Daschle getting interviewed on C-Span today, and he
> said that whenever certain issues come up, and the radio talk-show
> right-wing people get rolling with it, the number of direct physical
> threats he and his family receive skyrocket. He says that the problem is
> that people are using politics as entertainment, and when the commentators
> get so emotional about it, people feel the need to actually do something
> violent about it.
>
> If people get enough reinforcement for this right-wing outrage, they start
> believing that it is normal (or even "American") to feel this violent
about
> politics, and to physically threaten people because of it.
>
> I'm reminded once again that our technology has made drastic changes in
our
> lives within living memory, while the capacity to adjust to it may take a
> few hundred years, or even longer. What happens to people who evolved
> (uh-oh, there's another hot word) for millennia to live in small groups
> almost without artificial light, eating mainly unprocessed food which was
> in short supply for much of the year, and walking around a lot in the
> normal course of finding it ... [stop for breath] when they now have
bright
> 18 hour daylengths year around, drive everywhere, watch TV and listen to
> the radio constantly, are exposed to crowds of strangers all the time, and
> eat processed, dense food full of substances which didn't even exist a few
> years ago? Oh, and write and read political flames on a technical list?
>
> Perhaps the answer is that they get fat, irritated, and angry, and fly off
> the handle a lot? And the kids get Type II diabetes 35 years ahead of
time.
>
> (Conrad, where's that suit you were going to send me?)
>
> susan
>
>
>
>
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