Newton, thanks for the reply. I will ignore this old information, though I will continue to seek info on when and where who used what and why. As for the 200 temperaments, they group themselves in my spreadsheet, which sorts them by the standard deviation of the M3rds. This produces a fairly clean progression, and each temperament gets graphed so you can see what it looks like. (I have only graphed 75, and posted the results on my website, but there will be 200 after some Time has Passed.) || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| jason kanter * piano tuning * piano teaching bellevue, wa * 425 562 4127 * cell 425 831 1561 orcas island * 360 376 2799 || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| > From: Newton Hunt <nhunt@optonline.net> > Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org > Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 19:31:50 -0500 > To: pianotech@ptg.org > Subject: Re: Historic tuning modes > > That is OLD information and the references were to specific pages in the > old "Tuning Historical Temperaments By Ear", the first book on the > subject by Owen and was taken from a telephone conversation while I was > trying to get information on what HT I should use for which composer or > period. I think that the reference to ET should be 1928 not 1828. I > likely misunderstood what Mr. Jorgensen said or took libatious > liberties. > > 200 HTs? How can you keep them all straight? Or not straight as the > case is. :) > > Newton > > Jason Kanter wrote: >> >> Greetings, list. In looking through my old stuff, I have come across a page >> that I tore out of the Piano Technicians Journal in March (year uncertain, >> probably 1979 give or take a year) ... it is Newton Hunt's "Accent on >> Tuning" column, where he recounts a conversation with Owen Jorgensen at the >> Cincinnati convention. Here is the quote: >> >> "I spoke to Mr. Jorgensen, who reluctantly confined himself to the following >> general (but not necessarily accurate -- historically and musically >> speaking) five tuning modes: >> >> "(1) For music composed from the early 1500's to 1695, use the Grammateus... >> >> "(2) Most composers (before Bach) from the early 1500s to 1722 used the Aron >> Meantone temperament...except the English, who preferred [the Grammateus] >> ... >> >> "(3) From 1722 to 1809 the Aron-Neidhardt ... was used by Mozart, Haydn, and >> early Beethoven, as well as Bach. >> >> "(4) Marpurg "I", 1809 to 1828, Schubert and late Beethoven. >> >> "(5) From 1828 equal temperament began to be used..." >> >> (Please let's not devolve into an argument about whether equal temperament >> ever was or ever is actually possible to tune! ... the information above >> comes straight from Jorgensen, via Newton, through the old Journal, to me, >> to you.) >> >> I must note that my own website, which contains images of 75 historical >> temperaments, does not have clear identifications of any of the above except >> the Grammateus. I am starting to incorporate other data and now have almost >> 200 temperaments in my Excel spreadsheet, but it will be a while before I am >> able to update the site. >> >> || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| >> jason kanter * piano tuning * piano teaching >> bellevue, wa * 425 562 4127 * cell 425 831 1561 >> orcas island * 360 376 2799 >> || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || ||| || |||
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