Thanks avery about the info on springs...... Got any? I have an action model with Renner stuff, and spring, and did get it regulated, and spring slowed down enough to just lift the whip. It made quite a difference when the spring was slowed down...... les On Sat, 09 Mar 2002 18:35:16 -0600 Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> writes: > Hi Les, > > I "think" I have some info on the spring thing as it relates to > Steinway > at the school. I'll check tomorrow when I'm there and see. > > Avery > > At 07:20 PM 03/08/02 -0600, you wrote: > > > Why do the pins get tight? I've hear Oriental pianos > "do > > that", but > >not heard "why". What to do with the springs? Newton Hunt just > wrote > >me a long thingie, and I get the idea that they should be weakened > so > >they barely lift the whip on their own, as they fairly jump now, > when > >keys are held down at backrail and hammers are lifted off the rep > >lever........ > >thanks > >les > > > >On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:40:19 -0600 "David M. Porritt" > ><dm.porritt@verizon.net> writes: > > > Les: > > > > > > From my experience with these things, it's probably not from the > > > fire > > > but from the "T" on the fall board. I think they are a little > prone > > > to get tight like some other eastern pianos. > > > > > > dave > > > > > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > > > > On 3/8/02 at 9:54 AM Newton Hunt wrote: > > > > > > >Hi Les, > > > > > > > >First, the wippen spring help REDUCE sluggishness by reducing > key > > > >weight. If they just lift their own weight then they are > adjusted > > > >properly. > > > > > > > >The after effects of a fire take a loooong time to settle down > to > > > >"normal" which will not necessarily be what we consider normal. > > > Smoke > > > >damage is long lasting, and dangerous, to you since it is more > than > > > just > > > >toxic. When you work on the action I would wear a mask and > some > > > gloves > > > >when you can. > > > > > > > >Sluggishness comes from lots and lots of sources. If > everything > > > else is > > > >normal then I would start by polishing the key pins, front and > > > center, > > > >lubricating the bushings and pins and when installing the keys > do > > > so > > > one > > > >at a time and carefully ease each key, front, hole and button. > > > Polish > > > >the capstans and lubricate them and the rocker cushions. > > > > > > > >Repin the entire hammer rail section and if the wippens and > other > > > pin > > > >sets show the same symptoms then repin those as well. > > > > > > > >Without meticulous attention to details and doing all 88 of > > > whatever > > > >then what is left undone will come back and bite you. > Carefully > > > check > > > >the pinning of the damper section and check the polish of the > > > wires. > > > > > > >WHen you are done it will play like a dream. > > > > > > > > Newton > > > > > > > >Leslie W Bartlett wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I ran in to my first experience with whippen assist springs > this > > > week, > > > >> and think I heard some negative things about such on the > list, > > > but > > > would > > > >> like current thinking I can share with customer. All parts in > > > whippen are > > > >> plastic, and the spring actually will lift the whippen up, at > > > rest, when > > > >> the back (damper-end) of the key is held down. > > > >> > > > >> I think it is contributing to a sluggish action. The home in > > > which the > > > >> piano resides had a fire five years ago. The piano was > covered > > > with a > > > >> large tarp, says customer, in order to "prevent it from > getting > > > >> wet"........ Now, five years later, hammers are either > sticking > > > or > > > >> swinging 1-31/2 times. There is some verdigris on the bass > > > hammers, but > > > >> the hammer flange pins look clean, as does the hammer flange > > > felt. > > > >> Wisdom needed. Repinning seems to fix the hammers, but I > cannot > > > figure > > > >> why it would take this long for them to get tight. > > > >> Thanks > > > >> les bartlett > > > >> houston > > > >> > > > >> > ________________________________________________________________ > > > >> GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > >> Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > >> Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > > > >> http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > > > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > David M. Porritt > > > dporritt@mail.smu.edu > > > Meadows School of the Arts > > > Southern Methodist University > > > Dallas, TX 75275 > > > _____________________________ > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________ > >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > >Join Juno today! 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