Tokai piano

Leslie W Bartlett lesbart1@juno.com
Tue, 26 Mar 2002 08:34:44 -0600


Thanks avery about the info on springs......  Got any?   I have an action
model with Renner stuff, and spring, and did get it regulated, and spring
slowed down enough to just lift the whip.  It made quite a difference
when the spring was slowed down......
les

On Sat, 09 Mar 2002 18:35:16 -0600 Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> writes:
> Hi Les,
> 
> I "think" I have some info on the spring thing as it relates to 
> Steinway
> at the school. I'll check tomorrow when I'm there and see.
> 
> Avery
> 
> At 07:20 PM 03/08/02 -0600, you wrote:
> 
> >         Why do the pins get tight?    I've hear Oriental pianos 
> "do 
> > that", but
> >not heard "why".    What to do with the springs?  Newton Hunt just 
> wrote
> >me a long thingie, and I get the idea that they should be weakened 
> so
> >they barely lift the whip on their own, as they fairly jump now, 
> when
> >keys are held down at backrail and hammers are lifted off the rep
> >lever........
> >thanks
> >les
> >
> >On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 15:40:19 -0600 "David M. Porritt"
> ><dm.porritt@verizon.net> writes:
> > > Les:
> > >
> > > From my experience with these things, it's probably not from the
> > > fire
> > > but from the "T" on the fall board.  I think they are a little 
> prone
> > > to get tight like some other eastern pianos.
> > >
> > > dave
> > >
> > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > >
> > > On 3/8/02 at 9:54 AM Newton Hunt wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi Les,
> > > >
> > > >First, the wippen spring help REDUCE sluggishness by reducing 
> key
> > > >weight.  If they just lift their own weight then they are 
> adjusted
> > > >properly.
> > > >
> > > >The after effects of a fire take a loooong time to settle down 
> to
> > > >"normal" which will not necessarily be what we consider normal.
> > > Smoke
> > > >damage is long lasting, and dangerous, to you since it is more 
> than
> > > just
> > > >toxic.  When you work on the action I would wear a mask and 
> some
> > > gloves
> > > >when you can.
> > > >
> > > >Sluggishness comes from lots and lots of sources.  If 
> everything
> > > else is
> > > >normal then I would start by polishing the key pins, front and
> > > center,
> > > >lubricating the bushings and pins and when installing the keys 
> do
> > > so
> > > one
> > > >at a time and carefully ease each key, front, hole and button.
> > > Polish
> > > >the capstans and lubricate them and the rocker cushions.
> > > >
> > > >Repin the entire hammer rail section and if the wippens and 
> other
> > > pin
> > > >sets show the same symptoms then repin those as well.
> > > >
> > > >Without meticulous attention to details and doing all 88 of
> > > whatever
> > > >then what is left undone will come back and bite you.  
> Carefully
> > > check
> > > >the pinning of the damper section and check the polish of the
> > > wires.
> > >
> > > >WHen you are done it will play like a dream.
> > > >
> > > >             Newton
> > > >
> > > >Leslie W Bartlett wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I ran in to my first experience with whippen assist springs 
> this
> > > week,
> > > >> and think I heard some negative things about such on the 
> list,
> > > but
> > > would
> > > >> like current thinking I can share with customer. All parts in
> > > whippen are
> > > >> plastic, and the spring actually will lift the whippen up, at
> > > rest, when
> > > >> the back (damper-end) of the key is held down.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think it is contributing to a sluggish action.  The home in
> > > which the
> > > >> piano resides had a fire five years ago. The piano was 
> covered
> > > with a
> > > >> large tarp, says customer, in order to "prevent it from 
> getting
> > > >> wet"........   Now, five years later, hammers are either 
> sticking
> > > or
> > > >> swinging 1-31/2 times. There is some verdigris on the bass
> > > hammers, but
> > > >> the hammer flange pins look clean, as does the hammer flange
> > > felt.
> > > >> Wisdom needed. Repinning seems to fix the hammers, but I 
> cannot
> > > figure
> > > >> why it would take this long for them to get tight.
> > > >> Thanks
> > > >> les bartlett
> > > >> houston
> > > >>
> > > >> 
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> > > _____________________________
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> > > dporritt@mail.smu.edu
> > > Meadows School of the Arts
> > > Southern Methodist University
> > > Dallas, TX 75275
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