Jason wrote: << The virtue of seeing major third AND fifth together means that you can assess what keys will sound best and worst (you have a good view of all the major triads). >> Greetings, The more ways to look at something, the better. My unbending rule is to be flexible! I've been amazed at how differently some things appear from a different perspective. Things like Salvadore Dali's image-within-an-image paintings, or an off-camber decreasing radius corner on a motorcyle track, OR maybe a series of thirds that are all different and organized in line with the circle of fifths. There can be completely different things there, depending on where you are coming from. I suppose the greatest shift of perspective in my musical life came when I heard "Switched-On Bach. It was something entirely different than the tired, old, tuned-by-choir-director's wife (who had "issues"), wind-blown, two manual organ in my boyhood church, but I digress. I can't figure out how to graph it, but I have a vertically oriented, 3-D chart with the fifths represented by bars on a right-angle axis to the thirds, ie, If the bars representing thirds were stretched from East and West, and those representing fifths were aligned North and South, and both perpendicularly centered on the same axis, when rotated there would be two views that showed only the thirds and two that showed the fifths. These four views would be 90 degrees apart and whatever row of bars that was viewed "edge-on" would effectively disappear. However, at 45 degress of rotation, one would see the profile of both at the same time. This allows the visual comparison of compound factors (two sizes of intervals) in one key to those in another. By way of visualization, to do this for 12ET with 1"= 1 cent, you simply take two pieces of cardboard, one13" X 2" and the other 13"X 13.7" and cut a lengthwise slot half way up both. Mark off 12 1" spaces on both sides of both pieces. Then by sliding the slots together, you would have a 3-D display showing equality along both lengths. (it looks sorta like a big Christmas tree ornament a 2nd grader would make in school. ) Since the thirds' effect on triadic harmony is more pronounced, and the fifths are tempered by slighter amounts, the fifths may be logically represented by bars that used a larger "length per cent" . It increases the visual contrast without skewing any comparison since the idea here is to demonstrate how the size of interval is associated with a given key, not how much farther from Just the fifths are from the thirds, or vice versa. However, that isn't what I wanted to make a point about. What I wanted to talk about was value judgments, as in labeling things as better or worse. When the keys in an unequal tuning are described as best and worst, a certain bias seems evident, one of which consonance is good and dissonance is bad. I think this is a limiting perpsective, for several reasons. In the Western tradition, music has encompassed far greater complexity than simply "consonance is good", otherwise, we would still be singing Gregorian chant. I think there is an implied value we feel for consonance, perhaps because it does not occur as readily as dissonance. (There are many ways an interval can be dissonant, but there is only one "Just"). When objects vibrate in sympathy with one another, they do so along modes that are consonant between them, requiring no more energy than the original signal, so we can perhaps view consonance as harmony that requires work for us to attain, but occurs effortlessly in nature. Of course we like it, 2,500 years of pursuing it can't have been the result of a casual interest. Consonance is also a source of relief. For us little piggies who have learned to recognize a pearl, it often makes us slow down and think beautiful thoughts, (ear candy, sonic sucrose, the noisey nard of the nervous). We know that those listeners raised in the Western tradition of harmony exhibit sedative responses to purely tuned intervals, so consonance has its effect. However, with consonance, like opium, optimism, or rising stock futures, we can get too much of a good thing and take it all for granted. Then what? Well, then we look to consonance's spikey cousin, dissonance. Edgy sort that. We know that those same Western listeners find dissonance to be stimulative. Too much and one is "incited to fury", but how 'bout just enough to wake up a world that listened to pure fifths for 1000 years? A natural by-product of the Pythagorean tuning was a harsh third, but even it was used! Surviving manuscripts of the 13th and 14th centuries lead us to believe that it was in use at the time, as Gothic music seemingly consisted of tremendously dissonant intervals mixed among very harmonious ones. How much is too much? How much salt does the stew need? Spices aren't something one can live on, but what do you do without them? We can see where the Crusaders' enthusiasm really came from, they were looking for trade and spice was a big part of it, (if I had been eating unflavored gruel for 10 centuries, I would probably kill somebody for a handful of pepper, too.) My father remembers fighting in the South Pacific during WWII, he said the weather was so perfect all the time that even the hint of a thunderstorm crossing the small islands they were on was much anticipated. Anything to break the sameness!! In the same vein, I think the dissonance that is the lightning and salt in our music is essential to the maintenance of interest, though how much is a subjective quality. Hence the decision depends on the knowledge (thus expectation) of the listener, and that is where the tuner finds his opportuninty. We know a consonant chord feels good, but does it feel better when it follows something something that contrasts with it? A "tight-shoe" theory of harmonic release? I think so, and it certainly appears that Beethvoen had the same notion. His music too often demonstrates the use of unequal temperament to heighten expressive passages for us to overlook its possible effects. Deciding on a palette for such use is now the chore of the tuner, since the established piano demogogues seem to know virtually nothing of this subject and often seek the safety of the familiar equal temperament. If we are to accept the 13.7 cent third as the only one, we have accepted a level of dissonance that was historically regarded as fairly high. So how can we then say that consonance is good and dissonance is bad when we are using a tuning in which every third is so dissonant? This seems possible only when we no longer hear the beating, when we no longer listen on close enough terms to hear the contrasts. If we are that inured to the actual sounds, we have no ability to hear consonance and we have given up the greatest qualities in keyboard music for the convenience of a "standard" tuning. The cost of this safety is the loss of true consonance and dissonance, all of which is averaged into a tuning with one size third. So, my point, (I remember having one somewhere earlier...), if an unequal temperament has "good" and "bad" keys, then the ET has everything "sorta" bad with all that beating. I, however, don't think of ET as "bad", just restless, unresolving, and bland. It is also generally true that unless one plays the same amount in all 12 keys on the piano , a well-temperament creates less total dissonance! Regards, Ed Foote
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