Ron, Why are the Veritune's numbers not the same in both comparison examples? Greg Ron Koval wrote: > First off, thanks to everyone for all the nice words of encouragement. My > wife and I appreciate it. I'll let you know as we find out any information. > > Here is the experiment for today. I don't have a SAT, so it is not > represented in this test. To compare the machine calculations, I used each > in it's default mode and followed printed directions to sample notes and > create a tuning. Same piano, in a practice room. Since RCT and TLpro use > different default partials, direct comparison is not possible. VT lists > multiple partials, so I can list RCT/VT and TLpro/VT. > > partial/RCT#/VT# (from A0 to C8) > > 6___-11.18__-17.33 > 6___-10.25__-16.05 > 6___-9.41___-15.32 > 6___-8.63___-13.32 > 6___-7.89___-14.85 > 6___-7.20___-16.50 > 6___-6.55___-15.99 > 6___-5.96___-14.68 > 6___-5.40___-13.36 > 6___-4.87___-12.07 > 6___-4.36___-11.24 > 6___-3.88___-10.11 > 6___-3.45____-9.47 > 6___-3.02____-8.16 > 6___-2.61____-6.29 > 6___-2.29____-4.44 > 6___-1.96____-5.38 > 6___-1.66____-6.57 > 6___-1.38____-6.12 > 6___-1.08____-5.40 > 6___-0.77____-4.69 > 6___-0.41____-3.81 > 6___-0.05____-2.94 > 6____0.40____-2.13 > 3___-2.08____-7.42 > 3___-1.67____-6.23 > 3___-1.28____-4.49 > 3___-1.00____-2.75 > 3___-0.75____-3.81 > 3___-0.52____-5.11 > 3___-0.32____-4.78 > 3___-0.11____-4.19 > 3____0.12____-3.59 > 3____0.41____-2.82 > 3____0.69____-2.08 > 3____1.09____-1.38 > 3____1.53____-1.17 > 3____2.01____-0.88 > 3____2.53____-0.56 > 3____3.14____-0.21 > 3____3.83_____0.15 > 3____4.51_____0.53 > 3____5.22_____0.94 > 3____5.97_____1.39 > 3____6.75_____1.86 > 3____7.52_____2.33 > 3____8.30_____2.82 > 3____9.07_____3.36 > 2____2.98_____1.45 > 2____3.49_____1.48 > 2____4.03_____1.57 > 2____4.36_____1.74 > 2____4.78_____1.97 > 2____5.07_____2.24 > 2____5.39_____2.57 > 2____5.81_____3.08 > 2____6.31_____3.74 > 2____7.01_____4.34 > 2____7.69_____5.02 > 2____8.75_____5.97 > 1____4.25_____1.75 > 1____4.82_____1.80 > 1____5.44_____1.95 > 1____6.13_____2.20 > 1____6.92_____2.54 > 1____7.68_____2.95 > 1____8.47_____3.44 > 1____9.35_____4.04 > 1___10.26_____4.71 > 1___11.21_____5.40 > 1___12.16_____6.14 > 1___13.19_____6.93 > 1___14.32_____7.75 > 1___15.50_____8.12 > 1___16.75_____8.56 > 1___17.37_____9.05 > 1___18.33_____9.70 > 1___18.84____10.65 > 1___19.45____11.68 > 1___20.48____13.07 > 1___21.77____14.82 > 1___23.78____17.29 > 1___25.74____19.60 > 1___29.05____22.10 > 1___33.18____24.02 > 1___38.33____25.92 > 1___43.48____28.08 > 1___48.64____29.77 > > Wow! I just typed this out; I've never seen a tuning diverge this much even > in the middle. Hmmmm.... Let's see how TLpro compares. Remember, these are > different partials being compared this time. Also, these aren't tweaked > tunings, just using the default settings. > > partial/TLpro/VT > > 6__-6.15___-17.33 > 6__-5.78___-16.05 > 6__-5.42___-15.32 > 6__-5.08___-13.32 > 6__-4.76___-14.85 > 6__-4.44___-16.50 > 6__-4.13___-15.99 > 6__-3.83___-14.68 > 6__-3.54___-13.36 > 6__-3.26___-12.07 > 6__-2.98___-11.24 > 6__-2.71___-10.11 > 6__-2.44____-9.47 > 6__-2.18____-8.16 > 6__-1.91____-6.29 > 6__-1.65____-4.44 > 6__-1.38____-5.38 > 6__-1.11____-6.57 > 6__-0.83____-6.12 > 6__-0.55____-5.40 > 4__-2.65____-9.70 > 4__-2.36____-7.97 > 4__-2.07____-6.75 > 4__-1.79____-5.66 > 4__-1.51____-4.45 > 4__-1.23____-3.88 > 4__-0.95____-3.31 > 4__-0.67____-1.96 > 4__-0.39____-2.60 > 4__-0.09____-3.44 > 4___0.20____-2.85 > 4___0.51____-2.23 > 2__-1.47____-4.75 > 2__-1.28____-3.97 > 2__-1.09____-3.29 > 2__-0.90____-2.58 > 2__-0.70____-2.35 > 2__-0.50____-2.13 > 2__-0.30____-1.88 > 2__-0.09____-1.61 > 2___0.13____-1.32 > 2___0.36____-1.01 > 2___0.59____-0.66 > 2___0.84____-0.29 > 2___1.10_____0.10 > 2___1.38_____0.53 > 2___1.67_____0.99 > 2___1.98_____1.44 > 1___0.00_____0.00 > 1___0.17____-0.10 > 1___0.35____-0.16 > 1___0.54____-0.17 > 1___0.74____-0.11 > 1___0.95_____0.04 > 1___1.17_____0.25 > 1___1.42_____0.51 > 1___1.67_____0.84 > 1___1.95_____1.10 > 1___2.24_____1.43 > 1___2.56_____1.79 > 1___2.90_____1.75 > 1___3.26_____1.80 > 1___3.65_____1.95 > 1___4.07_____2.20 > 1___4.52_____2.54 > 1___5.01_____2.95 > 1___5.53_____3.44 > 1___6.09_____4.04 > 1___6.70_____4.71 > 1___7.36_____5.40 > 1___8.06_____6.14 > 1___8.83_____6.93 > 1___9.65_____7.75 > 1__10.53_____8.12 > 1__11.49_____8.56 > 1__12.52_____9.05 > 1__13.63_____9.70 > 1__14.83____10.65 > 1__16.12____11.68 > 1__17.52____13.07 > 1__19.03____14.82 > 1__20.65____17.29 > 1__22.41____19.60 > 1__24.30____22.10 > 1__26.34____24.02 > 1__28.55____25.92 > 1__30.93____28.08 > 1__33.50____29.77 > > So, there ARE differences between the tuning gear out there. This is a > tough piano, I'm sure a "better" one would show less of a difference. I > wanted to throw the numbers out there to substantiate the claims that > something new is going on with the VT tunings. I'm not, however, going to > take the time to tune this piano with each of the different gear and report > back. I know from past experience that each might be acceptable, but I > prefer the VT tunings. > > Ron Koval > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- Greg Newell mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
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