Aural versus ETD tuning training

[SidewaysWell1713@aol.com]

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In a message dated 12/25/02 12:55:34 AM Central Standard Time, 
pianotoo@imap2.asu.edu writes:


> For those who are new to the pianotech list, I had thought that
> with the demonstrations of the "Tuneoffs" a few years ago we would
> not need to rehash this argument about the superiority of Aural vs
> ETD tuning. There is not a dime's worth of difference with those
> skilled in either method. And the beginning ETD user has a 
> definiteadvantage over the beginning aural tuner. While it may be 
> true in
> some instances that some ETD users never really become good tuners,
> the same can definitely be said about some aural tuners.
> 
> Jim Coleman, Sr.
> 

Thanks for setting the record straight, Jim, we need to hear it from the 
person who proved it, from time to time.  Still, people do have their 
preferences.  I am fortunate to have a young apprentice who wants to learn to 
tune aurally to a state of excellence before he ever tries an ETD and I, for 
one, am glad to teach him.  He was visiting this morning and we tried the 
aural scheme I had concocted for him and wrote it all down.

He is interested in learning a Thomas Young type temperament but has problems 
with the way it and most other HT's are presented.  I think there should be a 
way to tune most any desirable HT from an A Fork and have it fall within the 
F3-F4 octave.  I came up with something for him a while back and have been 
meaning to write it down.  I did so this morning.  I'll be interested to see 
the analyses of those who know how to do them, to see how close I have come 
to the Thomas Young or at least a representative 18th Century style Well 
Tempered Tuning. See my subsequent post.

Also, I tuned a brand new Shigeru Kawai piano the other day and created a new 
custom ETD program for it in the EBVT with Tempered Octaves.  In this 
instance in particular, I was able to get amazing sweetness and clarity all 
throughout the F4-F6 range, the so-called, "Killer Octave" territory.  My 
numbers may look somewhat irrational but it is about the sweetest, cleanest, 
most in tune sounding program I have created to date.  The input from recent 
Pianotech participants and Owen Jorgensen have helped.  I'll publish the 
program on the list as soon as I can get it copied.

I believe in both methods or even better yet, in the ETD assisting, 
confirming and storing the results of very carefully crafted aural tuning.  
The combination can't be beat.

Merry Christmas!

Bill Bremmer RPT
Madison, Wisconsin
<A HREF="http://www.billbremmer.com/">Click here: -=w w w . b i l l b r e m m e r . c o m =-</A>

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