New Tuner

[Don]

Hi David,

Hmm covered in blood you say? Been restringing lots of pianers eh? LOL!

At 11:49 AM 12/17/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Tom-----Welcome to the list.  For what it's worth, I'm an aural 
>tuner---have never used a machine, and before i started posting here, was 
>very prejudiced against their use.  Now I'm much more accepting of their 
>value as a stress reducer and teaching device, but I still feel they can 
>be dangerous to the growth of the heart of our craft----the ability to 
>use your ears and body as a highly developed feedback loop. My advice is 
>this: honor your ears; trust your ears; learn to tune a piano WELL with 
>your ears; use an ETD to check your work or learn what you're doing right 
>or wrong----but the best  tools you have are covered by skin, and powered 
>by blood and mystery ......David Andersen
>
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>>Hi Jason,
>>
>>I could not disagree more with you about etd's and learning aural tuning.
>>If they are used properly they will reduce the learning curve for aural
>>tuning to a minimum. Unisons are rarely tuned by etd. I do recommend a
>>mentor be found if at all possible. 
>>
>>At 06:35 AM 12/17/02 -0800, you wrote:
>>>Tuners who use the computer to read this list are far more likely to use
>>electronic tuning tools. But as a new tuner, you need to be wary of
>>learning through an electronic device; your ears need training, and the
>>electronic devices bypass that.
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>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Tony Caught" <caute@bigpond.com>
>>>To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 4:54 AM
>>>Subject: Re: New Tuner
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Tom
>>>
>>>A recent survey carried out by someone on the list showed 70% electronic.
>>That is of people who answer.
>>>
>>>Tony Caught
>>>Darwin Australia
>>>caute@bigpond.com
>>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>  From: thomas adams 
>>>  To: pianotech@ptg.org 
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 8:37 PM
>>>  Subject: New Tuner
>>>
>>>
>>>  Hello list, 
>>>  As an  new list member and aspiring  tuner, I have one question,
>>(actually many, but one for now).  Do most of you tune by ear, or with an
>>electronic tuner, or a combination of both? Thanks,
>>>  Tom
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Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T.

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