Richard Oliver Snelsons Unhappiness

[Farrell]

Richard B. wrote:
"My view, and I stand by it."

OK. That's fair. I feel the same way.

You won't stop sending those perverted jokes to me, now will ya?  ;-)

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Brekne" <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Richard Oliver Snelsons Unhappiness


> Farrell wrote:
> 
> > Here is where I gotta depart from ya. Yes, at conventions
> > "We go in and out of pure piano technical talk all the
> > time...", but the difference is that stuff we go public
> > with is humorous or curious. It is not political or
> > religious. Go to a Roger Jolly class. Humor abounds. Its
> > great. What Richard Snelson was focusing on is the
> > political and religious stuff that gets posted on the
> > list. How he comes across a post that is either
> > inflammatory to the right or left and gets his day off on
> > the wrong foot. I could not agree more. And yes, we will
> > talk political at the conventions. But not often. And only
> > one-on-one, or at most in a very small group.
> 
> I dont know how many Nationals you'be been too Terry, but
> the two I attended these past three years, there was plenty
> of both politics and religion around. In the hallways, and
> corridors, at the receptions and other functions. There was
> even a prayer breakfast or something of the sort in Reno.
> The real difference was that the conterpart of our cyber -
> delete button works pretty well...in those real life
> situations. Those who dont want to participate, simply
> turned to something else.
> 
> And to set the record very straight Terry, Richard Snelson
> is on record on several occasions for quite a bit more then
> "focusing on is the political and religious stuff" He has
> criticised several humourous contributions and he has voiced
> his dismay at having to hear about peoples experiences such
> as what high school they went too, or what football team
> they hail for.
> 
> And that is the crux of the whole matter.... where does the
> border go... and who's going to set it and what makes anyone
> think it will be set fairly..
> 
> Sorry I dont buy any of this. The list has demonstrated time
> and time again its outstanding character and abilities in
> regulating itself in this and other such matters. We need no
> formalized rules, nor does it serve any purpose to simply
> accuse the list as being garbaged lonely hearters and throw
> us the proverbial finger on the way out. As Dale so well put
> it, there is a positive approach that is much more conducive
> to the problem.
> 
> 
> >  But cheap spinet bashing is not taboo. That's OK. Even
> > Steinway bashing is fair game (not that I would ever do
> > that though)! This list is such a good thing. Political
> > and religious posts turn many, if not most, of us off. I
> > suppose a few enjoy the exchange. I suspect not many. I
> > don't. Save it for the convention hallway. I hate to see
> > valuable contributors to this list get discouraged and
> > unsubscribe. It is simply everyone's loss. Especially
> > newishbies like me!   :-) Terry Farrell
> 
> These last two paragraphs are actually quite interesting. I
> have seen at least three folks come and go exactly because
> of the Steinway bashing. I have even heard it said
> scornfully by a number of folks at the conventions that the
> list is not much more then a forum for Steinway bashing. And
> of course I have heard comments about sex jokes, ... got a
> nasty one myself in private mail not so long ago ... so yes
> sex is also tossed around from time to time.
> 
> My point is twofold. The list stays mostly piano topical
> very well on its own. And the assumption that one or another
> type of off topic . material is somehow more (or less)
> appropriate is not one I can see makes any sense. This
> second inherently involves value judgements that are
> dangerous at best to make. Especially when its simply
> unnecessary to make them in the first place. My view, and I
> stand by it.
> 
> 
> --
> Richard Brekne
> RPT, N.P.T.F.
> UiB, Bergen, Norway
> mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
> http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html
> 
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