Richard Oliver Snelsons Unhappiness

Richard Brekne Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no
Mon, 09 Dec 2002 22:37:08 +0100


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Farrell wrote:

> Here is where I gotta depart from ya. Yes, at conventions
> "We go in and out of pure piano technical talk all the
> time...", but the difference is that stuff we go public
> with is humorous or curious. It is not political or
> religious. Go to a Roger Jolly class. Humor abounds. Its
> great. What Richard Snelson was focusing on is the
> political and religious stuff that gets posted on the
> list. How he comes across a post that is either
> inflammatory to the right or left and gets his day off on
> the wrong foot. I could not agree more. And yes, we will
> talk political at the conventions. But not often. And only
> one-on-one, or at most in a very small group.

I dont know how many Nationals you'be been too Terry, but
the two I attended these past three years, there was plenty
of both politics and religion around. In the hallways, and
corridors, at the receptions and other functions. There was
even a prayer breakfast or something of the sort in Reno.
The real difference was that the conterpart of our cyber -
delete button works pretty well...in those real life
situations. Those who dont want to participate, simply
turned to something else.

And to set the record very straight Terry, Richard Snelson
is on record on several occasions for quite a bit more then
"focusing on is the political and religious stuff" He has
criticised several humourous contributions and he has voiced
his dismay at having to hear about peoples experiences such
as what high school they went too, or what football team
they hail for.

And that is the crux of the whole matter.... where does the
border go... and who's going to set it and what makes anyone
think it will be set fairly..

Sorry I dont buy any of this. The list has demonstrated time
and time again its outstanding character and abilities in
regulating itself in this and other such matters. We need no
formalized rules, nor does it serve any purpose to simply
accuse the list as being garbaged lonely hearters and throw
us the proverbial finger on the way out. As Dale so well put
it, there is a positive approach that is much more conducive
to the problem.


>  But cheap spinet bashing is not taboo. That's OK. Even
> Steinway bashing is fair game (not that I would ever do
> that though)! This list is such a good thing. Political
> and religious posts turn many, if not most, of us off. I
> suppose a few enjoy the exchange. I suspect not many. I
> don't. Save it for the convention hallway. I hate to see
> valuable contributors to this list get discouraged and
> unsubscribe. It is simply everyone's loss. Especially
> newishbies like me!   :-) Terry Farrell

These last two paragraphs are actually quite interesting. I
have seen at least three folks come and go exactly because
of the Steinway bashing. I have even heard it said
scornfully by a number of folks at the conventions that the
list is not much more then a forum for Steinway bashing. And
of course I have heard comments about sex jokes, ... got a
nasty one myself in private mail not so long ago ... so yes
sex is also tossed around from time to time.

My point is twofold. The list stays mostly piano topical
very well on its own. And the assumption that one or another
type of off topic . material is somehow more (or less)
appropriate is not one I can see makes any sense. This
second inherently involves value judgements that are
dangerous at best to make. Especially when its simply
unnecessary to make them in the first place. My view, and I
stand by it.


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Richard Brekne
RPT, N.P.T.F.
UiB, Bergen, Norway
mailto:rbrekne@broadpark.no
http://home.broadpark.no/~rbrekne/ricmain.html


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