This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Kevin, I do the bass first also but find that using the 25% raises the pitch = way too far, often 10 to 15 cents above where I want it to be when = finished. The verituner has a program of 10% for the bass that gets the bass right = on the money give or take a cent. But the reason that I do not use the = verituner on raises of over is the view of the targets is not as easy = for me to work with not the program. For me just setting the SAT is easier with fooling the program to give = me the over pull that I want and then letting the little green lights do = the job. Yes I said green <G> Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:30 PM Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes? Joe, glad it works for you, however, I find that the bass requires a = twenty percent over-pull. Perhaps our methods differ; during a pitch = raise, I tune the single bass strings and one string of each bi-chord = first, then I pull out the strip and tune unisons by ear. I'm also = tuning the bass first, ala Sanderson. When I do a pitch raise, I do it = with a SAT (Gets you real close, real fast), so I do the bass first. I = can understand the 10% overpull thing only if I've already brought the = rest of the piano up first.=20 Please clarify. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Joe And Penny Goss=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes? Kevin, If the bass is about 30 cents flat I want to raise the note about = three cents sharp ( about 10% ) of pitch. So with a SATlll that raises = the pitch 25% that would result in too much over pull for me so I will = set the over pull for 12 cents and roll the program into the machine. I take only one measurement at A2 to arrive at my over pull. Works = very well for me. I use the 25% in the tenor and about C4 the 30% to the top then = retune. On pianos 25% or less flat or sharp I use the Verituner 100 and its = 10% bass, 30% tenor, and 36% treble and retune. Joe Goss imatunr@srvinet.com www.mothergoosetools.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20 To: pianotech@ptg.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes? > > All wound strings: 1/5 (Example: You test 10 notes, or so, = and find them > about 30 cents flat. You would set your ETD to +6 cents sharp = and tune those > strings to that setting.) Here's another little brain saver: What if you're pitch = raising a piano and want to do a 20% overpull in the bass, and it's, = say, 28 cent's flat. (let's see, one fifth of twenty eight would be = ......... ah........ ah........) =20 Take 28, and double it for 56. Move the decimal point over to = the left one place.=20 5.6 is 1/20th of 28.=20 At least, that's how I do it.=20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/ad/c0/65/14/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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