Killer Octave - Warranty Issue?

Carl Meyer cmpiano@home.com
Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:49:05 -0700


Ron,  The phrase "You get what you pay for " has got to be up there with
"I'm from the government, I'm here to help you"

You gotta be dam lucky to get what you pay for even if you spend a lot of
time researching the product.  Remember the seller (salesman) is a pro and
spends 100% of his time learning to refute what you've learned.  So don't
buy anything.  Just save your money when your young so that when your old
you can have everything only the young can enjoy.

Of course, my will says "Being of sound mind, I spent it all".  I plan on
beating the government to it.

Carl Meyer  Assoc. PTG
Santa Clara, California
cmpiano@home.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Nossaman" <RNossaman@KSCABLE.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Killer Octave - Warranty Issue?


> > Does it follow that if a client buys a cheap
> >piano it all comes back to "you get what you pay for"?  There might be
any
> >number of
> >things we would consider a warranty problem in a fine piano, but not in a
> >cheap one. True or not?
>
> This is a generic spew Clyde, not specific to you, but since you brought
it
> up. Do you always get what you pay for? Don't you too often, think you
paid
> for something you in fact, didn't get? Aren't we, in fact, looking down
our
> noses at the sad ignorant fools who actually thought they would get a
> decent piano for their money when we think like this? Aren't we the sad
> ignorant fools when we go shopping for something we don't know enough
about
> to protect ourselves, and don't we resent having someone in the process
> look down their nose at us instead of educating us? I do. It shouldn't
cost
> more to put a decent soundboard and bridges in a cheap piano than in a
good
> one, and as long as we're willing to shrug off the same dysfunctions in
> cheap pianos that we puff up and become noisily self righteous about in
> expensive ones, it won't change - ever. Are our standards that closely
> keyed to ticket prices, or is it just fallboard names? The fact that these
> identical problems exist at all in expensive pianos would seem to indicate
> that the potential buyer can't trust any presumed correlation between
price
> and quality. They are buying the cheap instrument in the first place
> because they haven't the knowledge to know what to look out for, and if
> they don't know enough about pianos to make an informed decision, where do
> they go to get some? They can go to a professional technician that may not
> know the difference between voicing, structural and design problems, or
> they can buy from the salesman that seems the most sincere, or wears the
> spiffiest suit. They can take a poll among their friends, or ask their
> piano teacher who is giving lessons on a Cable Nelson spinet. In all
cases,
> it's still a blindfolded crapshoot if they can't get accurate and
> trustworthy information on which to base a decision. Who they gonna call?
>
>
>
> >We might think a manufacturer of anything shouldn't make inferior
merchandise,
> >period.  But as long as there's a market for it, it'll be out there.
>
> And again, as long as it's tolerated and excused as inevitable, there will
> be a market for it. Yea, I know. More ravings from the cheap seats.
>
> Ron N



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