Flag-poling: a way of life, or...?

[Farrell]

I think you guys are talking about two different things: "playing the slot
machine", is to be minimized, that is, bending the pin up and down, or
flag-poling - the other item, that Randy recommends, is to TURN the pin so
that the string is slightly above pitch, and then for a final movement, TURN
the pin back to lower tension until the string is at desired pitch.

I think.

Terry Farrell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Rhee" <jrhee@fai-arch.com>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: Flag-poling: a way of life, or...?


> Tom,
>
> Your right,  Randy does caution against poor practice of manipulating
> the pin "playing the slot machine" or randomly yanking downwards on it.
> It's possible that I have a more updated version of the course but in the
> tuning video George Defebaugh demonstrates proper manipulation of the pin.
> I don't have the course in front of me (I'm at my real job-UGH) but when I
> get to it I'll get you a page number on that material.  I'd be interested
to
> compare notes..
>
> Jonathan Rhee
> Weymouth, MA
>
>
> > From: Tvak@AOL.COM
> > Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:53:18 -0500
> > To: pianotech@ptg.org
> > Subject: Re: Flag-poling: a way of life, or...?
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/29/01 8:42:17 AM, jrhee@fai-arch.com writes:
> >
> > << He speaks at
> > length on how to properly manipulate (tweak) the pin in vertical pianos.
>>
> >
> > Gee, maybe I missed that.   Maybe I'm recalling the video.  Somewhere in
> > there I seem to remember the caution to not "treat the tuning pin like a
slot
> > machine" and never move the pin up or down.  At any rate, I took that
advice
> > to heart before coming across a tuner tuning a piano at the Chicago
Cultural
> > Center.  Clearly his movements were vertical!  That prompted me to meet
with
> > a local RPT and indeed his advice was to adopt some vertical motion
after
> > completing the turning process.  (ric's recent post described it best.)
> >
> > Can you give me a page number on the section describing vertical motion
of
> > the pin?  I'd love to read it.  (or re-read it)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Tom Sivak
>
>