Pitch Raising

[Stephen Airy]

If you recommend splicing, then is there a way to
splice strings IN the speaking lengths?  I have
spliced a couple bass strings (one of which broke
again and I had to replace cause the break was too
close to the winding).  I've heard that it's not a
good idea to splice plain-wire strings in the speaking
length.  Middle C broke at the bridge (I've replaced
the string so that one is OK now.)

--- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> I know it is not what you want to hear, but it
> sounds like your strings are
> toast. If you are not pulling the string way over
> pitch accidentally during
> tuning, they must just be right at their breaking
> points. Try splicing your
> old strings rather than replacing if money is a
> problem.
> 
> Terry Farrell
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Airy" <stephen_airy@yahoo.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 1:28 PM
> Subject: Re: Pitch Raising
> 
> 
> >
> > --- Farrell <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > OH, Joe, please be more specific!
> > >
> > > > As for the "Stretch" factors, that others are
> > > advocating, YIKES! They must
> > > > like replacing strings. Some of those
> > > "over-shoots" are far in excess of
> > > the
> > > > normal sting breakage tolerances.
> > >
> > > I never overshoot more than 25 cents (I usually
> keep
> > > it well below that).
> > > What kind of "over-shoots" are you referring to?
> > > It's obvious to me 25 cents
> > > max is typically within string breakage
> tolerances
> > > (on a string in good
> > > condition). But I wonder about string
> deformation.
> > > How much can one pull it
> > > up above pitch without doing something weird to
> it -
> > > deforming it in some
> > > way. Anyone have any kind of data on that - I
> > > realize it will vary with
> > > different string diameters, but maybe at least
> > > general info???
> > >
> >
> > I've broken about 5 strings so far in my Ricca,
> one in
> > the temperament while I was playing the piano and
> four
> > in the bass while I was tuning.  All broken
> strings
> > snapped when they were at or below pitch.  Do you
> guys
> > think there's a way to avoid breaking strings in
> the
> > future without replacing them?   Although the
> strings
> > are 88 years old, I don't have the money to do a
> full
> > restringing job.  (I've already replaced the
> lowest 2
> > bass strings and that took a good sized chunk out
> of
> > my wallet.)  I WOULD like to be able to keep the
> piano
> > tuned at 440.  (It was a half-step flat a year ago
> > when I got it and when I pulled it up I didn't
> break
> > any strings; the strings broke during subsequent
> > maintenance tunings.)
> >
> > > Terry Farrell
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joseph Garrett"
> <joegarrett@earthlink.net>
> > > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2001 1:26 PM
> > > Subject: Pitch Raising
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bill Bremmer & List,
> > > > I've been following this "thread". Yes, Bill,
> if
> > > you use the pitch raising
> > > > program, as I outlined in the PTJ, Dec.1999,
> it is
> > > very possible to get
> > > > "Dead on", with just two passes on a 100cent
> pitch
> > > raise. If it doesn't
> > > > happen, then I would be looking very carefully
> at
> > > the overall structure of
> > > > the "victim piano". If the piano is solid,
> there
> > > should be no problem of
> > > > attaining pitch in two passes.
> > > > As for the "Stretch" factors, that others are
> > > advocating, YIKES! They must
> > > > like replacing strings. Some of those
> > > "over-shoots" are far in excess of
> > > the
> > > > normal sting breakage tolerances. My advice
> is:
> > > DON'T DO THAT!
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Joe Garrett, RPT, (Oregon)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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