'birds eye'

[David Ilvedson]

Antares,

This, in our lingo, is the flange part where the center pin is supposed to
be tight, i.e. free in the bushing cloth but tight in the "birdseye".  When
repinning, tightness in the birdseye is the first test, then fit the
bushing to the pin.  What would you call this?

David I. 

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On 6/7/01 at 8:34 AM antares wrote:

>> List,
>> 
>> By the way I seem to find a lot of Renner actions with pinning loose in
>the
>> birdseye.  Anyone else found this?
>> 
>> David I.
>> 
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>> On 6/6/01 at 11:32 AM David Ilvedson wrote:
>> 
>>> Jeannie,
>>> 
>>> I have a customer with Feurich 6' 4" grand, Renner action.  I came into
>> the
>>> situation where he wasn't touching the piano and hated it because of
the
>>> excessive action noise.  What I ended up doing was regulating the
height
>> of
>>> the jack in the wippen, which was low.  The noise lessened quite a bit.
> I
>>> checked the pinning on the hammer flange and found the pin loose in the
>>> birdseye.  I ended up repinning the entire action.  He now loves the
>piano
>>> again.  Check the height of the jack, its position with the knuckle and
>> the
>>> pinning.  
>>> 
>>> Good luck
>>> 
>>> David I.  
>>> 
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>>> On 6/6/01 at 8:56 AM Jeannie Grassi wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I'm wondering if many of you have had a chance to tune a new Charles
>>> Walter
>>>> Grand?  I finally got a chance yesterday.  Lovely instrument.  But the
>>>> complaint from the customer was about "excessive action noise".  This
>is
>>>> specifically the noise that appears when the action parts (wippens,
>>>> hammers,
>>>> keys) are dropping back to rest position.  Of course this happens in
>> every
>>>> action, but it did seem rather noisy for a piano of this quality with
a
>>>> Renner action.  I'm wondering if this is typical of this piano and
what
>>>> might be done to improve it?
>>>> 
>>>> The keyframe did need a little bedding but I noticed no appreciable
>>>> difference in the noise after correcting that.  The rest of the
>> regulation
>>>> was close enough to expect less noise.  The back rail cloth was glued
>on
>>>> one
>>>> edge only, but it was the rear edge, which is the opposite to what I
>> would
>>>> expect.  I loosened the glue joint under the cloth in some spots
>> expecting
>>>> to hear a huge difference, but no appreciable change. All rails,
>flanges,
>>>> brackets, etc. that are supposed to be tight, were tight.
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone have similar experience with this piano or any more ideas for
>this
>>>> sort of thing in general?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> jeannie
>>>> 
>>>> Jeannie Grassi, RPT
>>>> Associate Editor, Piano Technicians Journal
>>>> mailto:jgrassi@silverlink.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>Can anyone tell me what 'birds eye' means in relation to pianos?
>
>Friendly greetings
>from
>
>André Oorebeek
>Amsterdam, Holland
>
>'where music is, no harm can be'