Fw: Plate Finish, was Varsol

[Erwinpiano]

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Hi Mark

 I'm aware of the many amazing properties of shellac but it just never =
occurred to me to try it in this application until you guys tweaked my =
duh! barrier.  This might be my answer.I'm in the middle of a plate job =
that is a very long and arduous story.
    Thanks

  Dale Erwin
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  From: bases-loaded@juno.com=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Plate Finish, was Varsol


  Hi Dale -

  It would be very unlikely for you to have a bleed thru problem like =
you describe if you used shellac as your barrier coat.  It is an =
amazingly reliable coating, sticks to anything, isolates contaminants, =
and provides a film that virtually any top coat will have good adhesion =
to, esp, if you use the dewaxed version.

  FWIW

  Mark Potter
  bases-loaded@juno.com


  On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 11:02:09 -0700 "Erwinpiano" =
<Erwinpiano@email.msn.com> writes:
      Terry=20

    Is the primer you use before spraying the laquer an enamel or just =
something compatible with laquer? Is your final result prone to =
chipping?, or does it stay a bit on the softer side and set up harder =
over time. (which I like) Just curious as I am experimenting with some =
different techniques including sandblasting to remove rust and animal =
urine then building back up with automotive productsof various kinds.Yes =
it's a pain but I've had some preexsistent stains return to discolor =
spots in my final topcoats over time.

     Dale Erwin


    =20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Farrell=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 6:19 AM
    Subject: Re: Plate Finish, was Varsol


    "Using shellac for the first coat should  prevent the fish eye."

    I don't use shellac, but I hear/read so much about it, I have no =
doubt it is an excellent way to go. What I do use for my plates though, =
is grey (any color is fine I'm sure) metal primer that I buy at the =
auto-parts store. I just use it to hit areas that I have sanded through =
to the bare metal. Sand lightly after dry. Then I finish with spray can =
gold laquer. I like to just keep it simple. As long as I am using the =
spray can laquer for the finish, I find it very easy to use the spray =
can primer. I have had excellent results.

    Terry Farrell =20
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      From: jolly roger=20
      To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:48 AM
      Subject: RE:S&S plate touch up & Varsol



      Hi Diane,
                     Varsol must be a Canadian type thing, for some =
thing you guy's call some thing else.  Two great Nations separated by a =
common language.  ( Churchill I think.)


        None of the paint stores I went to know what Varsol is......

        I bought a good quality gold enamel and one of those =
fill-it-yourself spray bottles.  It looks much better except for the =
fish-eyes

      Using shellac for the first coat should  prevent the fish eye.  =
The oxidization is probably attacking the finish from below.  Just a =
calculated guess. Some of the more expert finishers could probably give =
advice in this area.
      I have done one plate in this manner. The grey market Yamaha just =
2yrs ago.  The finish seems to be holding up OK. But more time will =
tell.  Weather it will eventually eat it's way through again, I do not =
know.  But I do know shellac can be a very effective sealer.  Leave for =
several days to harden, before applying the finsh coat.
      Hope this may help.
      Regards Roger



        Diane Hofstetter=20




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