Hey Roger, Have you used your string level to check level <G> Joe Goss imatunr@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~imatunr/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 9:10 PM Subject: Re: Key Leveling > Hi Terry, > Happy that your tuning went well. > A good levelling job can only be done in the piano in my book. I no longer > ever think of doing it on the bench. > The front lip is nearly always irregular, so if you use a Jaras at the > piano, it will follow the irragularities. > Bench regulation is just a rough in, but close enough for rock & roll. > You may have noticed Gina and I was emphatic in our articals about keybeds. > Like a house built on rock, it forms a solid foundation for every thing > that follows. > Solid bedding first, with out this level will wander. Good and solid, > levelling next. Refined dip and after touch comes much later in the process. > Roger > > > > At 09:35 PM 1/27/01 -0500, you wrote: > >No sweat Roger, I respect anyone that calls 'em as he sees 'em. When you say > >that "Most key bed, front lips are less than straight" are you speaking of > >just the front half-inch or so where the Jaras aluminum bar would attach to > >the keybed? And when you say straight, are you referring to the keybed not > >being level from left to right, or are you referring to the fact that the > >last half-inch or so of most keybeds may slope downward and toward the > >pianist from the plane (hopefully!) of the keybed - and irregularly at that? > > > >I have never used my Jaras device in a piano. I have always used it on the > >bench. A bench that is straight and level. But there still is a bit of > >wiggle inherent to the rig. I guess I'll have to give the stick a try and > >see if I do better with it. Thanks for your input. I'm curious as to your > >response regarding the above questions. > > > >Terry Farrell > >Piano Tuning & Service > >Tampa, Florida > >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "jolly roger" <baldyam@sk.sympatico.ca> > >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> > >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:21 PM > >Subject: Re: Key Leveling > > > > > >> Hi Terry, > >> Sorry about the slur on you Jaras device, note the term > >> device. Key leveller they are not, took me quite some time to learn that. > >> Most key bed, front lips are less than straight, so the device just > >follows > >> that less than straight line. The objective is to attain level key TOPS, > >> not an unlevel key bed. > >> Set the height on the two end keys packed out with F/R heavy card > >> punchings, and taped down to the action frame so they will not move. Use a > >> 48" straight edge to span the end notes. Level all the A's with the long > >> straight edge. then I use a 12" straight edge to fill in the blanks. > >Double > >> check with the long stick to finish off. > >> Ultra thin punchings are availiable from Yamaha. I think they are .0015" > >> but metric <G> > >> PS: the Jaras device is wonderful for setting glide bolts, but it will not > >> show you slightly tilted keys. > >> OK. I'll crawl back under my favorite rock. > >> Roger > >> > >> > >> > >> At 05:11 PM 1/26/01 -0500, you wrote: > >> >I would also like to know the popular technique(s). I was saddened to see > >my > >> >Jaras key leveling device referred to with ill will. What works better. I > >> >don't really like the traditional stick method. Let's hear it! > >> > > >> >Terry Farrell > >> >Piano Tuning & Service > >> >Tampa, Florida > >> >mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Phil Bondi" <tito@PhilBondi.com> > >> >To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech@ptg.org> > >> >Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:59 PM > >> >Subject: Key Leveling > >> > > >> > > >> >> ok..what do you folks like to do a top-notch leveling job? > >> >> > >> >> I'm questioning my own devices. > >> >> > >> >> roo(k) > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >
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