Hi List, As an added to my NEVER buy. I place 'Square Grand' in that category too. (I know, you won't like that either, Joe. :-)) People up here also have trouble, finding a tuner, who will even tune, either of these types. I still tune the birdcage, but not the square, as my body can't take the contortions required. Regards, John M. Ross jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
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