Cordier temperament

[Isaac OLEG SIMANOT]

Hello,

We have a few tuners tuning this temperament here.

The basics of the fifths quality is the equal beating of minor third and
major third all along the temperament and going the farther possible as that
in basses (and treble) when you play that minor chord the similar speed of
the two thirds gives a special sound quality .

The tuning is done with tenths (and 17ths) , not octaves and double, you may
strive for a regular progression of 10ths and 17ths all along. (double
octaves are checked but musically, not for beats)

I've personally find that the tuners are often in the necessity to tune very
short octaves if not inversed (less than 2:1) in the treble because of too
much stretch coming if they follow too much the 17 this progression. The
basses too are to be tuned VERY short to keep the progression even (and the
3:2 5ths quality)

Beside, it is not too difficult to tune only in these intervals, and it
gives a new "hearing trick".

The sound is very impressive, but I've find it somewhat static.

Serge Cordier is working actually on a new version of his method, as he
finally admitted there are flaws in the original approach.

May be Paul Dubuisson, trained by Serge Cordier, could join the list, I will
ask him.


Regards gentlemen.

Isaac OLEG



> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]De la part
> de Marcel Carey
> Envoyé : jeudi 13 décembre 2001 13:25
> À : pianotech@ptg.org
> Objet : RE: Cordier temperament
>
>
> Hello Inäki,
>
> This is basically a pure fifths temperament. I've had a customer with a 9'
> Falcone that inssisted that I tune this temperament on his piano.
> What I've
> found is that it does give the piano much more brilliance in the
> treble, but
> I found that it was too much stretch for my taste. Double octave
> were about
> 2bps wich I found disturbing. But, this is what he wanted. When
> checking the
> tuning, it was too much stretch, but when he played the piano, it sounded
> fine. So again, we should be careful to keep the goal in mind. We
> must tune
> for music, not for tuning test.
>
> Marcel Carey
> 2852 Dussault
> Rock Forest  QC
> J1N 2V6
> (819) 564-0447
> mcpiano@globetrotter.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On Behalf
> Of Iñaki Coello
> Sent: 13 décembre, 2001 06:50
> To: pianotech@ptg.org
> Subject: Cordier temperament
>
>
> Anybody tested the Cordier temperament? I have readed about it but I don´t
> know the result. Anyboy of you tried and can give me your opinion?
> And more: how can you do the central scale for this temperament?
> It is in one book called "piano bien tempere et justesse orchestrale" by
> Serge Cordier (sorry, I write the tittle by memory, but even I can´t
> understand French language so maybe I have much more mistakes in this
> language than in English!)
>
> Good holidays all (if available!)
>
> Iñaki Coello Gómez
> Valladolid. Spain
>
>
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